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Extreme Kits => Extreme 430 => Topic started by: Drew355 on November 04, 2008, 12:32:25 AM

Title: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Drew355 on November 04, 2008, 12:32:25 AM
This is the one I have really been waiting for!!!! There have been hints here and there for the observant, such as panels in the background when the murci was in its final stages, but now its out of the bag!!!!

I very nearly swapped my order to a murci after an amazing experiance in a genuine, but now its coming together Im glad I have stuck with the 430.

I have lots of genuine parts for the build already so cant wait to get cutting!!! 

Im sure there will be some teaser shots of the prototype in the coming weeks as it reaches production status.

Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Argus X575 on November 04, 2008, 02:25:44 AM
I would like this one but will start with the 360 as there is a summer sale (per website).  On one post Extreme had a background for the Webpage and it had the Guillardo, Murci, 430, 355, Aston, and 360.  I think the 430 will be Boss!   Would like to see a Veryon but all things in time BUT now is the ..... Wait... WHAT TIME IS IT----------->430
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: dcookie monster on November 04, 2008, 12:16:11 PM
ye ha  :P :P :P

Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Argus X575 on November 05, 2008, 07:13:22 AM
Drew & Cookie I thought this may help you a bit:

http://stores.ebay.com/Specialized-Italian-Recycling_Ferrari-F430_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZQ2d1QQfsubZ8QQftidZ2QQtZkm

http://stores.ebay.com/ExotiParts_Ferrari-F430_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQfsubZ9912751QQftidZ2QQtZkm
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: STRDAL360 on November 05, 2008, 12:33:32 PM
Wow, I did wonder about the possibility of Extreme 430 and now it's coming! :o

Could Extreme confirm this, please!? cos I would definitely want this over the 360, but not that 360 isn't a beauty itself or anything.  I can't say I haven't been tempted by the 430 replica by DNA.  I was torn between DNA 430 and Extreme 360 but then decided to go with Extreme.  But if now Extreme is going to make 430 as well, I would be silly to pass on that!!

What is going to be used as the donor car? 406 again?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Argus X575 on November 05, 2008, 02:55:47 PM
Wow, I did wonder about the possibility of Extreme 430 and now it's coming! :o

Could Extreme confirm this, please!? cos I would definitely want this over the 360, but not that 360 isn't a beauty itself or anything.  I can't say I haven't been tempted by the 430 replica by DNA.  I was torn between DNA 430 and Extreme 360 but then decided to go with Extreme.  But if now Extreme is going to make 430 as well, I would be silly to pass on that!!

What is going to be used as the donor car? 406 again?

Extreme kinda confirmed that back on 01 Nov, when he said that they were taking orders on the 430 already and when asked about donor it was said the 406.  Would basically be a swap on the front bumper door sills and the rear sections.  Hope that helps or for more exact info it is under this forum but look for 'NEW KIT'
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EXTREME on November 05, 2008, 09:10:42 PM
£15,000 all in including the car, kit,front lights plus fitting of the kit ready for the painter to take over. That's allowing £2,000 for the car, so if you get the car its £13,000
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Drew355 on November 05, 2008, 09:43:34 PM

 Would basically be a swap on the front bumper door sills and the rear sections. 

Theres a few more bits involved, the 430 kit has a new front bumper, front centre splitter, front wings, front light mouldings, side sills, full new rear quarters, engine cover, rear bumper, rear diffuser and diffuser blades. It also has new rear glass and moulded light covers. Quite a bit really!

It also has new steel sections at the rear with revised rear mountings,
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Argus X575 on November 05, 2008, 11:57:01 PM
Well smack me and call me SHIRLEY!  Shame on me for making it that simple as I forgot I was dealing with Extreme.  The price of a total build to the paint phase is not bad at all; especially, if you find your own donor one of the other gents has for 700 BPS (forgot his name but in the section for sales) this could be a good buy.  Extreme your sales team is going to make me do something crazy-LOL. 

Would the procedure for the build of the 430 be the same as the 360?  For the 15,000 BPS price, when you say "ready for the painter to take over", does that mean we would take it from there?  Like wise if this being the case what would the price for the 360 be? What is the cost of the 430 kit as that is an awesome price (can't beat that with a stick)!  I told my wife about this and she was jumping for joy then asked me if we could get a loan before I go into surgery this coming Monday.  I had to remind her that the price was not in dollars.  Any info would be much appreciated.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: STRDAL360 on November 06, 2008, 08:45:54 AM
Could someone post up some pics of the 430?

I wonder if Extreme is going to be making interior kit for the 430.  I am especially interested in the steering wheel since DNA already made a replica steering wheel that looks pretty damn good.

The genuine 430 interior is such an upgrade from 360, so IMO an interior kit should be made to make the replica more authentic and more likely to attract buyers.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: dcookie monster on November 06, 2008, 11:38:38 AM
Ash,

Whats the total cost for the kit going to be i.e panels headlights windows seat conversion etc.

I presume you will need to purchase the same parts as for the 360 I.e suspension etc and get the lower arms and driveshafts changed as per the 360

cheers
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Drew355 on November 06, 2008, 12:45:22 PM

I wonder if Extreme is going to be making interior kit for the 430.  I am especially interested in the steering wheel since DNA already made a replica steering wheel that looks pretty damn good.

The genuine 430 interior is such an upgrade from 360, so IMO an interior kit should be made to make the replica more authentic and more likely to attract buyers.

These are a few of the bits I have so far, the interior should be reasonably close to the original once complete.

(http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp339/Drew_355/430int-1.jpg)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: STRDAL360 on November 06, 2008, 12:52:47 PM
Good job, Extreme.

Can't wait to see the completed car!

Any plan on the steering wheel replica? Ferrari made a huge fuss about their "manettino" on its debut and I think in order to look the part the steering wheel would be an important of the interior replication.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: XPERT360 on November 06, 2008, 10:32:45 PM
Now listen Andrew, You have to loan those parts to Extreme so that Ashley can take a mould of them. Then he can sell me the vent pods  for my 360. It will save me a whole lot of work :D :D

Nice purchases just the same.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Argus X575 on November 07, 2008, 02:40:00 PM
Hey 360 was snooping about the Bay and was wondering if this would help you:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110062455826&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&viewitem=#ht_795wt_0
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: XPERT360 on November 07, 2008, 04:44:39 PM
nice find arthur but need 5. this is for  single one. I think I will opt for the copies which are very similar. Thanks.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Drew355 on November 07, 2008, 08:33:45 PM
Now listen Andrew, You have to loan those parts to Extreme so that Ashley can take a mould of them. Then he can sell me the vent pods  for my 360. It will save me a whole lot of work :D :D

Nice purchases just the same.

Ash knows they are available! If they get the time & the demand (they have rather a lot on their plate at the moment) I get the feeling they may spawn several copies before they make it into my car!! 
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Argus X575 on November 07, 2008, 09:54:14 PM
nice find arthur but need 5. this is for  single one. I think I will opt for the copies which are very similar. Thanks.
may want to check it again in the states side ebay.  It is supposed to be for 6.  When I thought I was going to make some moves to order my (the wifes)  360 kit I started scouting and emailed him asking if he had 6.  Later in the day he changed it to 6 available.  Try it now:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ferrari-360-Dash-Vent_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247QQcategoryZ33544QQihZ001QQitemZ110062455826QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWD1V#ht_795wt_0
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: STRDAL360 on November 18, 2008, 03:18:51 PM
Any updates on the 430?

Pre-official pics?  ;)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EXTREME on November 18, 2008, 03:23:31 PM
Just finishing off the Murci I will get some in a few weeks for you
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: aak1203 on November 18, 2008, 03:39:22 PM
oooh cant wait, just in time for xmas aswell!
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: STRDAL360 on November 19, 2008, 12:14:01 AM
Cheers, Extreme.  Can't wait to see the car!

Is there going to be an interior kit and fake engine kit as well for the 430?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: aak1203 on November 20, 2008, 09:24:02 AM
Extreme, for the 12k supply and fitting ready for paint, what exactly is included in the kit i.e lights, badges, glass, exhaust etc? Is the build cost for the 430 going to be similar to a 360 or more in line with a murci?

One last question, i know you have had a hell of alot on but are you going to eventually do a fake engine kit and replica interior for this?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Argus X575 on November 27, 2008, 01:28:45 AM
Just finishing off the Murci I will get some in a few weeks for you
Also could we get a price list for the 430 (if different from 360) and will you still offer the 360?  The reason I am asking is my wife wants the 360 so I have been buying 360 interrior pieces here and there but hers has to be done before I can get my 430.  Still looking for ways to get the Pug in US, any ideas as I have heard of a few?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: bowser330 on December 01, 2008, 12:31:45 AM
Extreme, BRAVO on the news of the 430.....I am still quite saddened by the fact that I didn't get a chance to visit while I was around Oxford in April. You are really far from their as well, so the windows of time were small...Thanks for trying to work with me though..

About the 15K pounds,.....this gets the car ready for paint, would it be possible for you to find a LHD donor? And would you be willing to work with a US buyer to ship the car "in such a way" as it would make the pickup as smooth as possible?

Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: GTOpower on December 03, 2008, 06:37:15 PM
I would be interested in the 430 kit, but I would like to see an improvement on the roof shape and have authentic glass all round including the windscreen, how about an exact interior? ....something else on the wishlist is the ability to install a v8 engine in the rear.

After what I have seen Extreme do with the Murci on an MR2 I know that they could create a 430 with exact dimensions, so maybe they could offer a subframe that welds to rear suspension turrets with mountings for the original engine or a V8 that would be sweet. And seeing as the engine has been removed from the front you can maybe have a custom wide wishbone supension setup on a subframe so the wheels can be fitted without spacers. Off course it will all cost extra but it would be the ultimate 430 replica with 100% body and a V8 engine. What do you guys think?

Or am I asking for too much  ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: aak1203 on December 03, 2008, 06:50:07 PM
well said GTO
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Argus X575 on December 04, 2008, 05:01:38 AM
Wife typing-  My husband agrees with you GTO but that would push the time for the kit to be ready/open to all.  It would be great because V-8s are not hard to find and he was thinking about putting one in my 360 and his 430 (long story) but in all would that not drive the time of the build up.  He would love it could be done but it is unlikely.  But don't listen to him he is having a bad day. :'(
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: GTOpower on December 04, 2008, 08:28:10 AM
Wife typing-  My husband agrees with you GTO but that would push the time for the kit to be ready/open to all.  It would be great because V-8s are not hard to find and he was thinking about putting one in my 360 and his 430 (long story) but in all would that not drive the time of the build up.  He would love it could be done but it is unlikely.  But don't listen to him he is having a bad day. :'(

Maybe Extreme could offer upgrade packages for those who wanted real glass and subframe for mid-engine, but I dont know how big the demand would be as it will be beyond most customers budget.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EXTREME on December 04, 2008, 10:00:10 AM
The 430 is an easier build due to it having no rear panel,  the frame at the rear has different mounting points to make things easier, bolt directly in to position using the rear seat belt mounting hols and suspension tops It has been designed with a quick build in mind, the front suspension has been changed to use a 1 inch spacer so allowing any wheel to fit, the roof will not be changed as the new skin we used for the 360 came directly off a genuine(same as 430)  im assuming you mean the windscreen pillars James?, in my opinion it would be best for safety reasons to use the existing pillars, I know they are 1 inch thicker than the genuine but this is the only compromise on the full car,

(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n261/extreme_011/430rep.jpg)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: fletch100 on December 04, 2008, 11:21:51 AM
i think what he means is the high point of tha car on the replica is at the top of the engine cover glass but on the real 360 it is in the centre of the roof meaning that it flows down through the engine cover glass better. you can see if you pause at 1.02 on the you tube vid of your demonstrator which shows a side view of both together and where there is an angle at the top of the glass.http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=z6djsYsAzeA (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=z6djsYsAzeA)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Argus X575 on December 04, 2008, 03:28:34 PM
Wife is away so I will talk quick. First the 430 looks awesome!  I can not wait until the finished product is done and to hear what options/upgrades would be possible as the  wife did say if she could place an engine in the back of the 360 she would get that and I would agree.  Second Fletch I noticed what you were saying and I chose not to make a big deal about it as i was happy that I could still own a Ferrari :o

I am going to wait until done before I drool anymore and will monitor the chat closely, the wife will.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EXTREME on December 04, 2008, 04:23:48 PM
i think what he means is the high point of tha car on the replica is at the top of the engine cover glass but on the real 360 it is in the centre of the roof meaning that it flows down through the engine cover glass better. you can see if you pause at 1.02 on the you tube vid of your demonstrator which shows a side view of both together and where there is an angle at the top of the glass.http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=z6djsYsAzeA (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=z6djsYsAzeA)

I understand what you mean but this issue was sorted out within a month of us building the show car, we just lowered the rear of the roof by 20mm on the frame. If you look at the others done you will see
I must say though been 20mm off at the start was easy to put right, but its better than been 20 inches off like the Gallardo effort on kitcar.ca that must be hard to put right
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Argus X575 on December 04, 2008, 04:29:44 PM
Hey Extreme  any way you could answer the question posted by Bowser 330 on 12/1 it is the same info I have been guess iong at but heard two ways:

1) Car comes built but paperwork shows the vehicle as a kit car
2) Send car w/o engine then send it separate.

Let us know what is what......
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: aak1203 on December 04, 2008, 07:40:20 PM
WOW, check out the 430, how nice is that, lets have a photo of the front please.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: fletch100 on December 05, 2008, 10:06:56 AM
i must say it is looking sweet how long are you being off having the car ready and painted?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: STRDAL360 on December 05, 2008, 01:20:23 PM
More photos of the 430, please, Extreme!

The side/rear view does look good, hope the next lot of photos will include the front, engine bay and the interior.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: bowser330 on December 11, 2008, 08:12:00 AM
430 looks amazing Extreme...any additional pics would be great!

Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EXTREME on December 11, 2008, 02:08:54 PM
The 430 will also be done on the MR2 Mk2, It will have and engine move of 8 inch to correct the wheel base, also a new windscreen will be used, In my opinion the Pug 406 is a better car but people have been asking for one on the MR2 so we will now be doing one on the MR2 MK2 SW20 along with the pug 406. Development started several months ago on the MR2 so we should have some pics by January
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Argus X575 on December 11, 2008, 03:15:00 PM
The 430 will also be done on the MR2 Mk2, It will have and engine move of 8 inch to correct the wheel base, also a new windscreen will be used, In my opinion the Pug 406 is a better car but people have been asking for one on the MR2 so we will now be doing one on the MR2 MK2 SW20 along with the pug 406. Development started several months ago on the MR2 so we should have some pics by January

I am so stoked!  I know this will help a lot of those in US and Canada as far as importing a completed vehicle.  I am not into a convertibles but the diversity of the builds I have to say hats off to you Extreme!  Hey is it possible you can PM me where I can find some tips on getting a Pug here as I am building up for a PUG (pr two) to 360 replica?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EXTREME on December 11, 2008, 03:25:34 PM
The SW20 is a Mk2 MR2 (coupe) not a roadster although we are doing a spyder 430on the MK2 as well but this wont be ready until March 09
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: GTOpower on December 11, 2008, 04:37:37 PM
The 430 will also be done on the MR2 Mk2, It will have and engine move of 8 inch to correct the wheel base, also a new windscreen will be used, In my opinion the Pug 406 is a better car but people have been asking for one on the MR2 so we will now be doing one on the MR2 MK2 SW20 along with the pug 406. Development started several months ago on the MR2 so we should have some pics by January

This has made my day, exactly what I'm after.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: XPERT360 on December 11, 2008, 10:11:25 PM
The 430 will also be done on the MR2 Mk2, It will have and engine move of 8 inch to correct the wheel base, also a new windscreen will be used, In my opinion the Pug 406 is a better car but people have been asking for one on the MR2 so we will now be doing one on the MR2 MK2 SW20 along with the pug 406. Development started several months ago on the MR2 so we should have some pics by January


is this car wide enough?? also I thought the whole point of using the 406 was because the distance between the front wheel and the front door line was way out?? Ash, if its possible, YOUR the man to do it. Cant wait.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: MC developments on December 11, 2008, 10:15:59 PM
Would love a 430 spider !
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: STRDAL360 on December 12, 2008, 01:04:30 AM
Personally I think the Pug is a better donor than MR2 as you could "transform" the Pug more closely to a 430 by fitting a replica engine bay on a Pug whereas you probably can't on a MR2 (correct me if I am wrong, Ash).  On the other hand, the MR2 will probably be cheaper to run and also more reliable in the long term. 

Nevertheless, can't wait to see it!
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Argus X575 on December 12, 2008, 07:59:57 AM
I am not one to disagree with you Strdal360 on the 406 but the diversity in the build is just awesome.  From what I understand the Pugs are not bad engine wise (correct me if I am wrong)  but once it gets confirmed a way to get one to the states if the engines goes I will just get a common Chevy small block.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EXTREME on December 12, 2008, 09:18:20 AM
The 430 will also be done on the MR2 Mk2, It will have and engine move of 8 inch to correct the wheel base, also a new windscreen will be used, In my opinion the Pug 406 is a better car but people have been asking for one on the MR2 so we will now be doing one on the MR2 MK2 SW20 along with the pug 406. Development started several months ago on the MR2 so we should have some pics by January


is this car wide enough?? also I thought the whole point of using the 406 was because the distance between the front wheel and the front door line was way out?? Ash, if its possible, YOUR the man to do it. Cant wait.


I can make it work, I will show you how in a soon, a few people have seen what im doing with it and seemed to like it,
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EXTREME on December 12, 2008, 09:29:56 AM
Personally I think the Pug is a better donor than MR2 as you could "transform" the Pug more closely to a 430 by fitting a replica engine bay on a Pug whereas you probably can't on a MR2 (correct me if I am wrong, Ash).  On the other hand, the MR2 will probably be cheaper to run and also more reliable in the long term. 

Nevertheless, can't wait to see it!

I agree the 406 is a better car, you can put the engine cover in, it only takes 2 minutes take the fake engine out and you have 4 seats also you can have a V6 engine, I did over 40,000 miles in my last 406 with no problems at all, just a normal service, don’t get me wrong the MR2 is a reliable car as well but the in my opinion the 406 is a good all round car, ideal for the man with a wife that says you cant have a 360/430 we have kids so you need to get a car with 4 seats     
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Drew355 on December 12, 2008, 11:51:59 AM

I can make it work, I will show you how in a soon, a few people have seen what im doing with it and seemed to like it,

I was a bit concerned doing it on the Mk2 mr2 may let the side down a bit after the reputation for accuracy extreme have built up.

Having seen it so far, there will be no problem! Usual extreme ingenuity and accuracy applies!
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EXTREME on December 12, 2008, 06:45:04 PM
We will be doing the engine moves at £2000, donor cars MR2 turbos start at £1500 so all done a donor ready for the kit will be around £3500 unless the customer wants to do the engine move on there own. The engine move is straight forward as people have shown on the murci builds, it can be done in a 7 to 10 days for a first time builder
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: STRDAL360 on December 13, 2008, 01:00:12 PM
Personally I think the Pug is a better donor than MR2 as you could "transform" the Pug more closely to a 430 by fitting a replica engine bay on a Pug whereas you probably can't on a MR2 (correct me if I am wrong, Ash).  On the other hand, the MR2 will probably be cheaper to run and also more reliable in the long term. 

Nevertheless, can't wait to see it!

I agree the 406 is a better car, you can put the engine cover in, it only takes 2 minutes take the fake engine out and you have 4 seats also you can have a V6 engine, I did over 40,000 miles in my last 406 with no problems at all, just a normal service, don’t get me wrong the MR2 is a reliable car as well but the in my opinion the 406 is a good all round car, ideal for the man with a wife that says you cant have a 360/430 we have kids so you need to get a car with 4 seats     

The last part you said is SO true, Ash. 
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: fletch100 on December 13, 2008, 08:00:16 PM
with the engine moves what does that include as this was a thing that would probably put me off a murci / gallardo build?
strut towers?
all hosing and cabling?
engine running?
chassi stretch?
i think this is a good idea as it will get more people doing the kits. a detailed indication of what you will be doing for the price would be good also a turnaround timescale of the time you would need the car for.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EXTREME on December 14, 2008, 12:08:32 PM
with the engine moves what does that include as this was a thing that would probably put me off a murci / gallardo build?
strut towers?
all hosing and cabling?
engine running?
chassi stretch?
i think this is a good idea as it will get more people doing the kits. a detailed indication of what you will be doing for the price would be good also a turnaround timescale of the time you would need the car for.



the price is a drive in drive out so everything is done for £2000 we have a lot of things to do here so sometimes cant spend the full week on it so best to say we would need the car for 2 weeks (we do not cut the chassis only move the engine back on it)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: snowmanappie on December 14, 2008, 11:36:45 PM
The 430 picture looks great! Awesome work there! Curious for more pictures :P
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: bowser330 on December 19, 2008, 08:55:53 AM
wait just a minute..am i reading this correctly?

Extreme is building a kit for the MR2 (MK2) which is a coupe!!!!!??!!!!!

I of course presume it will have the 99.99% accuracy the other kits have....wow....this has made my YEAR...

I cannot wait to see it...you said something about fitting a new windsheild (maybe the 406's) because the MR2's it toooo tiny.... (AHEM DNA AHEM)...sorry had to clear my throat...

I also presume you will do some type of exo skeleton as you did on the murci as I assume you really learned a lot from that build and can now apply those skills to other builds....nice...
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: GTOpower on December 19, 2008, 10:24:29 AM
wait just a minute..am i reading this correctly?

Extreme is building a kit for the MR2 (MK2) which is a coupe!!!!!??!!!!!

I of course presume it will have the 99.99% accuracy the other kits have....wow....this has made my YEAR...

I cannot wait to see it...you said something about fitting a new windsheild (maybe the 406's) because the MR2's it toooo tiny.... (AHEM DNA AHEM)...sorry had to clear my throat...

I also presume you will do some type of exo skeleton as you did on the murci as I assume you really learned a lot from that build and can now apply those skills to other builds....nice...


I am hoping that the new windscreen is an exact replica of the 430
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: coughinblood on December 19, 2008, 02:22:34 PM
All sounds real tight! Good to hear that the kit for the MR2 Turbo is turning out well.
New windshield?.....
Straight swap or some rake adjustment required?
Orginally was planning for a 360 build but what the hay..... Might as well do a build more up to date.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: MC developments on December 29, 2008, 10:26:32 AM
Would the 430 bodywork hangover the rear of the mr2, just thinking of an engine swap
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: GTOpower on December 29, 2008, 10:59:46 AM
Would the 430 bodywork hangover the rear of the mr2, just thinking of an engine swap

The MR2 will be stretched to correct wheelbase.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: MC developments on December 29, 2008, 12:26:20 PM
not asking about wheel base, talking about bodywork
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: GTOpower on December 29, 2008, 01:20:59 PM
not asking about wheel base, talking about bodywork

So whats the problem? there will be no body hangover if wheelbase is correct.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: MC developments on December 29, 2008, 01:38:30 PM
whats wheel base got to do with body length ? you seem to be getting the two confused

MR2 length is 4171, f 430 length 4512 = 341mm , so my question is will the 430 kit overhang the mr2 frame to match the length of the 430.

Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: GTOpower on December 29, 2008, 02:31:48 PM
Im not getting anything confused, Extreme kits are 100% dimensionally correct so you have to stretch the mr2 wheelbase so it fits the body. If you didnt do this then there would be a huge overhang on the rear of body. So I think I answered your question first time.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: MC developments on December 29, 2008, 04:01:18 PM
Oh I give up  ???

Lets go back to basics

extreme say they will drop the engine back 8 inches to correct for wheelbase, cool thats bang on going from 2400 to 2600.

Now the length of the mr2 is  4171 and the f430 is 4512 = 341mm or 12 inches, extending the wheel base only, makes no difference to body length. so the 12 inches of body length is incorporated where ?

it may be worth understanding the concept of being able to
lengthen wheelbase without altering body length,
altering wheelbase and altering body length
and altering body length without altering wheelbase
it could 8 inch in the middle and 4 on the rear, it could 8 in the middle and 2 at either end ?
Thats the question, is the extra length in the rear of the car or somewhere else?????????????????????????????
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: GTOpower on December 29, 2008, 04:55:00 PM
To avoid any confusion I think you should look at what Extreme has done with the Murci conversion, the same principle applies.....Ashley will correct me if Im wrong.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: MC developments on December 29, 2008, 06:30:12 PM
exactly with the murci the bodykit/fraem overhangs the 406
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: GTOpower on December 29, 2008, 06:56:20 PM
exactly with the murci the bodykit/fraem overhangs the 406

Theres no overhang on the 406 body, sorry I must be missing something? do you mean the exisiting rear overhang? cos this bit gets cut away.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Argus X575 on December 30, 2008, 05:08:01 AM
exactly with the murci the bodykit/fraem overhangs the 406
Hey MC developments I am confused.  Are you speaking of the overhang on the 406->360 conversion as GTO Power said that is cut off (see Expert 360 build) and as for the Murci, that build has a space frame that is added to the MR2 donor to meet the width and length needs (see Extreme Murci build) and if I am wrong then I am sure "everyone" will correct me but I kinda understand what you are saying.  Example a car may have the same length but a different wheelbase.  If I am not on spot with the example then please excuse me for butting in.  :)

In any case all of the builds that I am studying in this forum are replicas not kits.  That is why I am here and my anchor is dropped.  On page two of this topic there is a sneak peek of the 430 kit over the 360.  Take a look and let me know what you think also go to the Murci topic and check it out as I believe this was covered and that is what I believe they will do with the MR2->430 to be sure that all points match up.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: MC developments on December 30, 2008, 12:52:21 PM
Hey Argus,
 Thanks for the reply, I'm wasnt asking about the 406 build,( bit of a typo there) it was the Mr2 build for the 430 I was enquiring about.
I was looking for confirmation of where the extra body length required to match the 430 (12") , will it be in the nose or in the tail, as it is with the murci build.

Cheers MC
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: GTOpower on December 30, 2008, 01:47:12 PM
Hey Argus,
 Thanks for the reply, I'm wasnt asking about the 406 build, it was the Mr2 build for the 430 I was enquiring about.
I was looking for confirmation of where the extra body length required to match the 430 (12") , will it be in the nose or in the tail, as it is with the murci build.

Cheers MC

Your going round in circles here.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: MC developments on December 30, 2008, 03:22:33 PM
Not really just trying to find out where the extra foot of car length is, front, mid or rear ?

Dont see whats circular about that
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: coughinblood on December 30, 2008, 03:23:07 PM
I suppose some pic illustration will help out ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: GTOpower on December 30, 2008, 04:38:11 PM
Not really just trying to find out where the extra foot of car length is, front, mid or rear ?

Dont see whats circular about that

Your just a troll so I think I will ignore you.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: bowser330 on December 30, 2008, 04:44:49 PM
Ok guys, cool it...this forum isnt for bashing, thats kit cars forum, where we all were previously, lets keep this clean...this is just a miscommunication...

My two cents to this topic is that, yes the 8 inches of the stretch is done in the middle, in front of the mid-engine...

as for the remaining 4 inches, let me say this, considering the fact that the mr2 will have an exo skeleton around it (just like the murci), its original frame length doesnt matter at all... I think the frame length via the exo-skeleton(as others have said) will be perfect as well as the wheel base via the stretch as I said previously....

MC, we good?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: MC developments on December 30, 2008, 05:10:33 PM
The original query was regarding the extra length as the engine conversion I'm thinking requires more space at the rear for the gearbox hence why i was asking where the extra length is. (obvioulsy if extreme extend the nose by 4", then the solution I have in mind wouldnt work), as it needs the extra length to be at the rear.

I dont see why thats a diffcult question, I'm more than happy if someone could explain why some people find it diffcult to answer.

As for GTO power, please do ignore me, it would make me much happier

Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: GTOpower on December 30, 2008, 05:32:31 PM
The original query was regarding the extra length as the engine conversion I'm thinking requires more space at the rear for the gearbox hence why i was asking where the extra length is. (obvioulsy if extreme extend the nose by 4", then the solution I have in mind wouldnt work), as it needs the extra length to be at the rear.

I dont see why thats a diffcult question, I'm more than happy if someone could explain why some people find it diffcult to answer.

As for GTO power, please do ignore me, it would make me much happier



Here is your original query 'Would the 430 bodywork hangover the rear of the mr2, just thinking of an engine swap' you was not happy with my reply for some reason and have been vague ever since. I thought you was missing the blatantly obvious on purpose just to cause trouble and bash the kit, but if I got you wrong then I apologise.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: MC developments on December 30, 2008, 07:05:50 PM
No need to apologise, it easy to miss-understand questions and answers on both sides
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: bowser330 on December 30, 2008, 10:24:04 PM
it would be cool if there was a real quick and easy way to draw in your comment to show graphically what you are talking about...I know it would help me explain things better...right now we have to draw it, then save it to a host (photobucket, etc) then paste the link here...

I wonder what the forum of the future would be like.....

Here it is!

http://www.musion.co.uk/

(ok sorry to divert from the 430 topic but Musion is just cool!)

Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Argus X575 on December 31, 2008, 03:56:37 AM
it would be cool if there was a real quick and easy way to draw in your comment to show graphically what you are talking about...I know it would help me explain things better...right now we have to draw it, then save it to a host (photobucket, etc) then paste the link here...

I wonder what the forum of the future would be like.....

Here it is!

http://www.musion.co.uk/

(ok sorry to divert from the 430 topic but Musion is just cool!)

Shame shame bowser330 ;)  showing us something cool to keep us smiling. Yet I would like to see a diagram of the MK2 coupe donor built up to be a 430.  It would be easier to get here but I prefer the Pug as a donor.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: MC developments on December 31, 2008, 06:05:17 PM
does this help

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f228/Subarupaul/Picture001.jpg)


(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f228/Subarupaul/Picture002.jpg)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: bowser330 on January 01, 2009, 02:30:22 AM
OK Question ...

What Model MR2 will the 430 be on??

I was about to Order a F355 with a V6 Dropped in .... but if Extreme is doing a 430 on a Toyota then I will wait for it .... ;D





Edit : OK Found it MKII ... ok next question will the F430 Novitec Kit fit your Kit Extreme??



Extreme likely will not be replicating the novitec kit, although, if enough of us got together and sponsored the replication of it, and made it worth their while, they just might....

So far we have 2 people....hehe...anyone?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Argus X575 on January 01, 2009, 03:13:02 AM
Elexceed RS  welcome to the chat.  In this case I would add in that Extreme goes to great lengths to replicate the actual 430 in every way (panels are moulded off the actual vehicle) so there is a good chance that the Novitec kit would fit as if it were an actual Ferrari.

Hey, can we get an official word on this guys???????
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: MC developments on January 01, 2009, 11:26:26 AM
i understand it would be on the  Mk2
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Drew355 on January 01, 2009, 07:54:52 PM
Elexceed RS  welcome to the chat.  In this case I would add in that Extreme goes to great lengths to replicate the actual 430 in every way (panels are moulded off the actual vehicle) so there is a good chance that the Novitec kit would fit as if it were an actual Ferrari.

Hey, can we get an official word on this guys???????

I can confirm 100% that original panels were used to make the 430. Minor mods have been made as per the 360, but nothing that should affect fitting the novitec kit.

Im not a massive fan of the novitec myself (apart from their wheels) & have you seen their prices!!
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: bowser330 on January 02, 2009, 08:01:36 PM
novitec prices are crazy...but thats expected right? Their prices have to reflect the volume of sales...
JDM>DTM>Italian/supercars etc...

EXTREME,

Can you share any pictures about the MK2_MR2 kit for the 430?

I for one am truly excited about using this donor!

I will check out the murci pics one more time to remind myself how it may look....
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Paul days on January 06, 2009, 07:24:13 PM
Hi Mates,

Newbie here, but LONG time fan of the Extreme F360, unfortunately there are no 406 Coupes here, but plenty of saloons.  If the F430 works under the MR2, those can be sourced, scarcely, but can be done.  To Extreme, keep up the good work, not a big car guru, but on a more artistic side, your work is breathtaking.

Paul
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Argus X575 on January 06, 2009, 11:52:58 PM
Welcome to the chat Paul.  Pugs are not available at all here (US) but where there is a will there is a way ;D In any case  a few of us are also curious/excited about the use of the MK2 as a donor. If you love the 360 you may want to check out the Murci build.  It is something to be seen.  Take care and once again welcome to the chat.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: bowser330 on January 07, 2009, 12:28:41 AM
With custom half shafts and cusom motor/transaxle mounts, shouldnt you be able to transplant any Front engine (FWD) into the MK2 Mr2 engine bay? especially considering you have a bit more room than usual...

I am thinking about the FWD of a nissan altima 3.5...FWD, front transaxle, 3.5 liter motor with good intake, throttle body spacer, and exhaust can get up 350hp I am told...

Do you guys think a 3.5 v6 would fit????
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Paul days on January 07, 2009, 05:57:21 AM
Welcome to the chat Paul.  Pugs are not available at all here (US) but where there is a will there is a way ;D In any case  a few of us are also curious/excited about the use of the MK2 as a donor. If you love the 360 you may want to check out the Murci build.  It is something to be seen.  Take care and once again welcome to the chat.

Thanks Bud,

I've seen all the threads, Extreme has great work.   I like the styling of the 360 better than the 430, but the MR2 turbo engine, i've seen them make mad power, plus it's rear wheel drive, so we'll see.

Paul
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: bowser330 on January 07, 2009, 08:53:19 AM
Oh yah for anyone thinking about replacing the Mr2 turbo motor (code name 3S-GTE, btw)

Check out this Supra with an interesting engine swap..hint hint...

http://www.topsecretjpn.com/gt300.shtml

530kw = 710 HP

 :o
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Paul days on January 09, 2009, 04:37:55 AM
My god, this is Ferrari F430 performance!!! LOL, actually I always knew that engine can be made to power that car like a Ferrari.  No blowoff valve, to hide the turbo, make it an internal wastegaste  :-\
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: bowser330 on January 09, 2009, 10:21:52 PM
for those who choose manual trans, i dont see why they would ever consider swapping out the turbo motor, just start building it up slowly, do the exhaust first and some other simple modifications now, and work your way up to more extreme modifications, before you know it, you will have a 400hp monster (you dont need 700hp, thats rediculous)

my issue is i need an automatic gearbox, so manual trans only (for the 3S-GTE) doesnt work for me... I guess im destined for a motor swap....hehe
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: coughinblood on January 18, 2009, 08:24:05 AM
Oh yah for anyone thinking about replacing the Mr2 turbo motor (code name 3S-GTE, btw)

Check out this Supra with an interesting engine swap..hint hint...

http://www..com/gt300.shtml

530kw = 710 HP

 :o

Having this kind of HP will really be right up there with the performance level I want to be near with when I get done with my build... But it will not be easy!... Any idea how much topsecretjpn is charging for this setup?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: bowser330 on January 18, 2009, 06:50:18 PM
Oh yah for anyone thinking about replacing the Mr2 turbo motor (code name 3S-GTE, btw)

Check out this Supra with an interesting engine swap..hint hint...

http://www..com/gt300.shtml

530kw = 710 HP

 :o

Having this kind of HP will really be right up there with the performance level I want to be near with when I get done with my build... But it will not be easy!... Any idea how much topsecretjpn is charging for this setup?
:-X

too much...I wouldn't even want to tell you bro..

Check this out...

This link shows a random guy with a turbo MR2 pulling 4.9 0-60mph (Gtech timed)..

with the following mods....

http://www.lovehorsepower.com/MR2_Docs/mr2_page.htm

Here is the video...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jts4NbIa1w&NR=1

Being able to run a 4.9 0-60 (with fatter tires more consistantly too, less wheel spin) would make a very nice replica ferrari!!!!

Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: coughinblood on January 24, 2009, 06:12:50 PM
Check out This site;

Some records on MR2/3sgte HP......
Click on the Rwhp for a Dynograph and short description on what was used to achieve the power!

I suppose I be happy with about 600hp for starters ;D....For starters ;)

http://www.mr2ownersclub.com/mr2records/dyno.htm (http://www.mr2ownersclub.com/mr2records/dyno.htm)


Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: bowser330 on January 25, 2009, 09:40:32 AM
Nice find coughinblood.

Now if only we could get an update or two or three, we'd be all happy campers...

 :D

So what do you say Extreme? and updates and pics?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: aak1203 on January 30, 2009, 08:29:59 PM
any chance of a photo of the front and side?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Darkeyesuk2000 on January 31, 2009, 08:40:51 PM
you should click on the bit that says land speed, someone has taken theres to 218 mph  :o
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Argus X575 on February 03, 2009, 08:00:50 AM
The 430 is an easier build due to it having no rear panel,  the frame at the rear has different mounting points to make things easier, bolt directly in to position using the rear seat belt mounting hols and suspension tops It has been designed with a quick build in mind, the front suspension has been changed to use a 1 inch spacer so allowing any wheel to fit, the roof will not be changed as the new skin we used for the 360 came directly off a genuine(same as 430)  im assuming you mean the windscreen pillars James?, in my opinion it would be best for safety reasons to use the existing pillars, I know they are 1 inch thicker than the genuine but this is the only compromise on the full car,

(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n261/extreme_011/430rep.jpg)


Hey Guys we are wishing nothing more than success for the team of you all but we humbly ask for another sneaky peak.  Please forgive those thieving magpies from interrupting the symphony of creation (Awesome 430) yet it is much awaited by the eye of the Tigers and the world hangs in the balance for the final countdown.  March/April time can not come baby, come baby, baby baby, come come fast enough.  Please as we are owners of a broken heart and the only way of how to mend a broken heart is by a sneaky peaky of the creation (Awesome 430).   All jokes, and shameless song plugs, aside we are bursting........  Any thing you can share would greatly appreciate it.  BTW  I will reveal my shame and inform this is the only inspiration I have since it was posted back in Dec. as well as going through Ebay and Google catching pics of the 430.  Yes Yes I know I am that pathetic kid in love with the head cheerleader who will have many babies and grow into that uniform undesirably.

Again, anything you have or can share would be much appreciated.  ( I think I need to call my therapist again) :-[
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: coughinblood on February 08, 2009, 10:51:35 AM
The 430 is an easier build due to it having no rear panel,  the frame at the rear has different mounting points to make things easier, bolt directly in to position using the rear seat belt mounting hols and suspension tops It has been designed with a quick build in mind, the front suspension has been changed to use a 1 inch spacer so allowing any wheel to fit, the roof will not be changed as the new skin we used for the 360 came directly off a genuine(same as 430)  im assuming you mean the windscreen pillars James?, in my opinion it would be best for safety reasons to use the existing pillars, I know they are 1 inch thicker than the genuine but this is the only compromise on the full car,

(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n261/extreme_011/430rep.jpg)


Gorgeous mate! Gorgeous.....

Hey Guys we are wishing nothing more than success for the team of you all but we humbly ask for another sneaky peak.  Please forgive those thieving magpies from interrupting the symphony of creation (Awesome 430) yet it is much awaited by the eye of the Tigers and the world hangs in the balance for the final countdown.  March/April time can not come baby, come baby, baby baby, come come fast enough.  Please as we are owners of a broken heart and the only way of how to mend a broken heart is by a sneaky peaky of the creation (Awesome 430).   All jokes, and shameless song plugs, aside we are bursting........  Any thing you can share would greatly appreciate it.  BTW  I will reveal my shame and inform this is the only inspiration I have since it was posted back in Dec. as well as going through Ebay and Google catching pics of the 430.  Yes Yes I know I am that pathetic kid in love with the head cheerleader who will have many babies and grow into that uniform undesirably.

Again, anything you have or can share would be much appreciated.  ( I think I need to call my therapist again) :-[
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on February 08, 2009, 10:18:56 PM
Yeah I would love to see more pictures. I Photoshopt a quick concept, when he's almost ready haha.

(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s319/kunfumunky/F430_Concept.jpg)

Greetz Munky.  :D :D :D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: GTOpower on February 09, 2009, 01:05:50 AM
Yeah I would love to see more pictures. I Photoshopt a quick concept, when he's almost ready haha.

(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s319/kunfumunky/F430_Concept.jpg)

Greetz Munky.  :D :D :D

Put some glass in there too :)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on February 09, 2009, 10:58:55 AM
Oke oke hahaha.

(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s319/kunfumunky/F430_Concept2.jpg)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: aak1203 on February 09, 2009, 12:32:09 PM
blimey thats looking real nice. can you paint it red aswell!!!!!!
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on February 09, 2009, 01:24:48 PM
blimey thats looking real nice. can you paint it red aswell!!!!!!

Hahaha oke this is about the best I can do. :D :D :D

(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s319/kunfumunky/F430_Concept4.jpg)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: GTOpower on February 09, 2009, 01:40:07 PM
Its looking the part now, can you photoshop it on my drive :) :)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on February 09, 2009, 02:46:17 PM
Its looking the part now, can you photoshop it on my drive :) :)

Nope sorry I already photoshopped it to my drive hahaha.  :D :D :D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on February 09, 2009, 03:20:54 PM
Whuhahaha do you like this.  :D :D :D

(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s319/kunfumunky/F430ConceptAlmere.jpg)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: GTOpower on February 09, 2009, 03:49:36 PM
Rescale the car, you should be leaning on the boot..not the bumper. If your a midget then please ignore.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on February 09, 2009, 04:12:40 PM
Rescale the car, you should be leaning on the boot..not the bumper. If your a midget then please ignore.

Whuhahaha I know but then you can see my (real) car underfeed it haha, so just think I’m a midget.  :D :D :D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: bowser330 on February 15, 2009, 12:40:27 PM
Havent heard from Extreme in a bit...wonder if everything is OK with the 430 on Mr2...

I think the one in the picture (rear shot)  is on a pug....

Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on February 15, 2009, 12:56:55 PM
Havent heard from Extreme in a bit...wonder if everything is OK with the 430 on Mr2...

I think the one in the picture (rear shot)  is on a pug....



Yep thats right, Those rims are from Peugeot. But I would like to see it on a 406, because those cars are easy to get overhere. :D :D :D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Argus X575 on February 16, 2009, 10:10:35 AM
I agree with you KunfuMunky they look awesome on the Pug but I guess the MR2 is for us poor ol' statesiders who can not get one over here. Me personally I prefer the Pug based 430 replica and still looking for ways of getting one on this side of the pond.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: bowser330 on February 19, 2009, 07:45:02 AM
Getting a LHD pug over here will be a lot harder than picking up an mr2....also we could get the car registered and everything else, a lot easier with it being based on a USA approved car....
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Argus X575 on February 20, 2009, 04:54:33 AM
Getting a LHD pug over here will be a lot harder than picking up an mr2....also we could get the car registered and everything else, a lot easier with it being based on a USA approved car....
True indeed but I am still researching on importing kit cars over here as I have always been fascinated with LHD cars.  Guess it were the B&W international movies I watched as a child.   I am not giving up as I have not seen anything definitive yet.  If you have then please let me know where so I can see my dreams shatter to my face.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: STRDAL360 on March 05, 2009, 11:23:09 AM
Any update pics on the 430, Extreme?

Recently seen pics of replica 430  posted by DNA, have to say quite impressed by it.  Appears to be more accurate than their 360, even with replica engine this time!
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: aak1203 on March 05, 2009, 12:53:06 PM
definatley agree, dna's 4thirty is very impressive, the attention to detail including fake engine is spot on. It is just a shame that really the mk3 mr2 is too small as a donor, the interior cockpit is very cramped where as the real deal is not. Also i cant get my head around an under powered 1.8 engine aswell.

More interested in extremes version with a v6. I just hope the final product and attention to detail is as impressive as dna's. But hey why am i doubting, look at the attension to detail with the murcie.........sorry guys i take it back!
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: STRDAL360 on March 06, 2009, 12:11:53 AM
Is anyone on this forum building an Extreme 430 or having one built by somebody, or knowing someone who is not on the forum but is building one at the moment?

I am interested in to see how close one can get the interior to look authentic as there just aint that many parts available on the web.  The Extreme panels will be for sure very accurate and the replica engine will also fool most, but the interior will be the damn big give-away!  :( 

Anyone know of  any good interior fabricator who can do the job?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: redone355 on March 06, 2009, 12:19:48 PM
Is anyone on this forum building an Extreme 430 or having one built by somebody, or knowing someone who is not on the forum but is building one at the moment?

I am interested in to see how close one can get the interior to look authentic as there just aint that many parts available on the web.  The Extreme panels will be for sure very accurate and the replica engine will also fool most, but the interior will be the damn big give-away!  :( 

Anyone know of  any good interior fabricator who can do the job?


What about our sponsors, Broadfieldz.....you up to it?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: XPERT360 on March 06, 2009, 12:38:27 PM
some of the boys are collating genuine bits and bobs for them selves. Some have been passed onto Exteme. Suppose you'l have to wait and see or purchase a kit your self and see what develops ;) Extreme are very buisy at the mo with some very new and exiting things.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Drew355 on March 06, 2009, 12:39:33 PM
Ash is building the first one, still under construction & once this is done & mods to the frames etc finished the kits will be ready to sell, so at the moment there are none being built.

Mine will be the first kit started (but is unlikely to be the first finished given my usual build speed!!).

I have all the aluminium interior panels which I intend to graft into the peugeot dashboard. The clocks will most likely remain as per the 406 with different dials and an additional peak over them as per 430. I will be using the extreme 360 interior kit with headlining and fake firewall etc.

(http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp339/Drew_355/430int-1.jpg)

Once the aluminium vents, radio mount and heater dials have been grafted into the dash, they will all be removed & the whole dash retrimmed in leather.

Centre console will be modded to incorporate the H gate, ashtray cover and maybe some switches lost when the vents are grafted in. No major shape change, just 406 moulding with 430 features. If I cant work out a way of remotely signalling the buttons on the front of the heater control unit via the 430 dials then the heater control unit as a whole will be moved into the glovebox. Its climate control so you just set the temp & leave it. Its only cold mornings really that you need to mess with it. As far as I can see it is just electronic control, so I should be able to extend the wiring.

Aftermarket subtle bucket style seats with logo in headrest moulded in (take a mould of a badge, make 2 resin copies of the badge then glue to the back of the leather & work the leather into all the details) Much more realistic & subtle than badge stuck on or stitched on horse.

Steering wheel will be home made based on commercially available aftermarket wheel. Will have manettino switch (Should do something, though obviously cant do ride settings!!) and working starter button.

Dont hold your breath for my mods though, all this is planned, nothing started yet. Just aquiring the parts ready. This time I want to get the exterior totally finished BEFORE starting to cut up my dash.

Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: STRDAL360 on March 06, 2009, 10:26:22 PM
Ash is building the first one, still under construction & once this is done & mods to the frames etc finished the kits will be ready to sell, so at the moment there are none being built.

Mine will be the first kit started (but is unlikely to be the first finished given my usual build speed!!).

I have all the aluminium interior panels which I intend to graft into the peugeot dashboard. The clocks will most likely remain as per the 406 with different dials and an additional peak over them as per 430. I will be using the extreme 360 interior kit with headlining and fake firewall etc.

Once the aluminium vents, radio mount and heater dials have been grafted into the dash, they will all be removed & the whole dash retrimmed in leather.

Centre console will be modded to incorporate the H gate, ashtray cover and maybe some switches lost when the vents are grafted in. No major shape change, just 406 moulding with 430 features. If I cant work out a way of remotely signalling the buttons on the front of the heater control unit via the 430 dials then the heater control unit as a whole will be moved into the glovebox. Its climate control so you just set the temp & leave it. Its only cold mornings really that you need to mess with it. As far as I can see it is just electronic control, so I should be able to extend the wiring.

Aftermarket subtle bucket style seats with logo in headrest moulded in (take a mould of a badge, make 2 resin copies of the badge then glue to the back of the leather & work the leather into all the details) Much more realistic & subtle than badge stuck on or stitched on horse.

Steering wheel will be home made based on commercially available aftermarket wheel. Will have manettino switch (Should do something, though obviously cant do ride settings!!) and working starter button.

Dont hold your breath for my mods though, all this is planned, nothing started yet. Just aquiring the parts ready. This time I want to get the exterior totally finished BEFORE starting to cut up my dash.



Wow, sounds like you've got everything all planned out, Drew355.

Any chance you will pass on the interior bits you acquired to Extreme for replication?  Especially will be interested in the steering wheel kit with Manettino switch and Starter button.  :)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Argus X575 on March 07, 2009, 02:32:57 AM
Ash is building the first one, still under construction & once this is done & mods to the frames etc finished the kits will be ready to sell, so at the moment there are none being built.

Mine will be the first kit started (but is unlikely to be the first finished given my usual build speed!!).

I have all the aluminium interior panels which I intend to graft into the peugeot dashboard. The clocks will most likely remain as per the 406 with different dials and an additional peak over them as per 430. I will be using the extreme 360 interior kit with headlining and fake firewall etc.

Once the aluminium vents, radio mount and heater dials have been grafted into the dash, they will all be removed & the whole dash retrimmed in leather.

Centre console will be modded to incorporate the H gate, ashtray cover and maybe some switches lost when the vents are grafted in. No major shape change, just 406 moulding with 430 features. If I cant work out a way of remotely signalling the buttons on the front of the heater control unit via the 430 dials then the heater control unit as a whole will be moved into the glovebox. Its climate control so you just set the temp & leave it. Its only cold mornings really that you need to mess with it. As far as I can see it is just electronic control, so I should be able to extend the wiring.

Aftermarket subtle bucket style seats with logo in headrest moulded in (take a mould of a badge, make 2 resin copies of the badge then glue to the back of the leather & work the leather into all the details) Much more realistic & subtle than badge stuck on or stitched on horse.

Steering wheel will be home made based on commercially available aftermarket wheel. Will have manettino switch (Should do something, though obviously cant do ride settings!!) and working starter button.

Dont hold your breath for my mods though, all this is planned, nothing started yet. Just aquiring the parts ready. This time I want to get the exterior totally finished BEFORE starting to cut up my dash.



Wow, sounds like you've got everything all planned out, Drew355.

Any chance you will pass on the interior bits you acquired to Extreme for replication?  Especially will be interested in the steering wheel kit with Manettino switch and Starter button.  :)
Hey Strdal360, it's a been long time.  Drew offered those parts up to Ash and Extreme long time ago as everyone from the onset of the 430 project were asking for interior options when the kit is unveiled.  So far there has been no word from Extreme if they  will take Drew up on his offer. I can not wait untii they are done and also hoping that Expert360's plans for the replica Ferrari dash with center console bits work out  as all together Extreme would forever close the mouths of those jaw-jackers that look for any excuse to kick down the achievement of others.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: STRDAL360 on March 07, 2009, 08:23:19 AM
I am not sure what you were getting at, Angus X575.

I've known EXPERT360 ever since I joined this club and have been following his progress closely.  Very impressive work.  A very friend and helpful chap, answered many of my questions about the kit. 

Drew355, I am all for Extreme replicating your interior parts so everyone benefits from it and can use them to build our ultimate dream cars!

I've always been a Ferrari lover.  But the real deals are far too un-economical to maintain.  Kit cars are definitely the way to go and Extreme is without a doubt the best company to do it with!
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Argus X575 on March 07, 2009, 07:19:14 PM
No harm meant Strdal360 was only commenting that I have not seen you post for some time-unless my medication is playing tricks on me again. Expert360 is awesome and has, along with others, got me in shape on the replica scene.  I agree that Extreme is the best as I checked every knook and cranny while I monitored the chat before I became their stalker errrr FAN..... 
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: STRDAL360 on March 07, 2009, 08:30:51 PM
None taken, Argus X575.  I haven't posted on this forum for a little while because I haven't had anything helpful to say.  It doesn't mean I have lost interest.  Still quietly following the progress of Extreme kits and other builders in the background.  Most of my conversations with XPERT360 previoulsy were done through PM.  Made a post on this topic a couple of days ago as I saw the progress photos of DNA 430 and thought it's about time someone update us on the progress. 

I am dead keen on the Extreme 430 (over DNA 430) but am wary of the interior replicability - already seen DNA's steering wheel, waiting to see what else DNA can come up with.

Also heard the rumour about possible future Extreme Gallardo - also very keen (I made a post about this under OTHER KIT CARS), won't hurt to get 2 kit cars, but then again very wary of the interior replicability if you have seen the genuine gallardo interior.

I am actually taking a wait-and-see approach at the moment, hoping that someone (hopefully Extreme affiliated) would be able to offer a complete (or near-complete) interior transformation kit.  I have the funding ready in the piggy bank...
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: aak1203 on March 09, 2009, 11:36:43 AM
more pics please
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Drew355 on March 09, 2009, 12:11:30 PM
Ash knows the 430 interior bits are available when he is ready for them. I havent been over for a while, so havent seen the progress of the kit, but it is apparantly coming on well & he is making changes/tweaks that should make it easier to fit than the 360. I am guessing they want to sort the exterior out 100% first before starting on the interior.

All my descriptions work really well in my head & on my design drawings, its going to be a while before they take shape though. Although my brain works overtime on projects (I am already collecting bits for my murci) My build speed lags somewhat behind!!!

The interior of the pug can be made to look pretty authentic in my opinion, I dont think it will be something that will be a problem, there wont be much left idetifiable as pug once its converted.

Steering wheel is something I will be making myself if nothing else is out there when I get to that stage. If I do make myself then I will put templates and switches used/suppliers etc on here for anyone to copy.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: STRDAL360 on March 10, 2009, 01:33:14 AM
Ash knows the 430 interior bits are available when he is ready for them. I havent been over for a while, so havent seen the progress of the kit, but it is apparantly coming on well & he is making changes/tweaks that should make it easier to fit than the 360. I am guessing they want to sort the exterior out 100% first before starting on the interior.

All my descriptions work really well in my head & on my design drawings, its going to be a while before they take shape though. Although my brain works overtime on projects (I am already collecting bits for my murci) My build speed lags somewhat behind!!!

The interior of the pug can be made to look pretty authentic in my opinion, I dont think it will be something that will be a problem, there wont be much left idetifiable as pug once its converted.

Steering wheel is something I will be making myself if nothing else is out there when I get to that stage. If I do make myself then I will put templates and switches used/suppliers etc on here for anyone to copy.

Sweet, Drew355.  You should definitely post your pics once the construction gets going.  I will be very interested...
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: bowser330 on March 14, 2009, 10:21:35 AM
Ash knows the 430 interior bits are available when he is ready for them. I havent been over for a while, so havent seen the progress of the kit, but it is apparantly coming on well & he is making changes/tweaks that should make it easier to fit than the 360. I am guessing they want to sort the exterior out 100% first before starting on the interior.

All my descriptions work really well in my head & on my design drawings, its going to be a while before they take shape though. Although my brain works overtime on projects (I am already collecting bits for my murci) My build speed lags somewhat behind!!!

The interior of the pug can be made to look pretty authentic in my opinion, I dont think it will be something that will be a problem, there wont be much left idetifiable as pug once its converted.

Steering wheel is something I will be making myself if nothing else is out there when I get to that stage. If I do make myself then I will put templates and switches used/suppliers etc on here for anyone to copy.

Sweet, Drew355.  You should definitely post your pics once the construction gets going.  I will be very interested...

+1
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EXTREME on March 17, 2009, 11:25:44 AM
We will have pictures soon of the 430, we are doing a bonded fit to the car including the kit at £8,000
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: CdRsKuLL on March 17, 2009, 11:46:23 AM
We will have pictures soon of the 430, we are doing a bonded fit to the car including the kit at £8,000

that sounds a top deal to be honest !!!
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: STRDAL360 on March 17, 2009, 12:01:29 PM
We will have pictures soon of the 430, we are doing a bonded fit to the car including the kit at £8,000

Kit plus bonded fit for £8,000?

Could you include some interior pics as well?  Is there going to be an upgrade kit for the interior this time round?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EXTREME SALES on March 17, 2009, 12:59:40 PM
Just to clear this up, as we have taken on another new building and new team members
we will be offering the the 430 kit fitted and bonded to the car for £8000, so yes that
does include the kit in that price  :) :)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: exabyte on March 17, 2009, 03:32:15 PM
Is that on the 406 chasis? or is there a plan for a MR2 430?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EXTREME on March 17, 2009, 05:05:40 PM
406
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: aak1203 on March 18, 2009, 02:40:54 PM
a few pics to remind use all just how nice the 430 is. God i cant wait for this one! Extreme....note the interior, please do a replica of this!
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: STRDAL360 on March 18, 2009, 09:20:53 PM
a few pics to remind use all just how nice the 430 is. God i cant wait for this one! Extreme....note the interior, please do a replica of this!

I second that!!
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: bowser330 on March 22, 2009, 06:49:54 PM
Question for the members...

How difficult would it be to convert most of pug406 frame to a tube frame....Extreme already does this essentially with the rear end of the car, but If extreme weight savings were desired...any advice??
E
xample...

Cut out the entire belly pan and replace it structurally with metal tube cross bars, and put in a fiberglass tub...


Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Argus X575 on March 24, 2009, 03:54:53 PM
Hey guys was doing my normal pass through the 430 pics/interior and ran across an idea.  Well since Extreme tries to keep it simple and affordable with the builds I figure with the center console to dash section we could have it formed like the first pic of the actual Ferrari 430 interior where you will notice it connects kinda like the Pug.  The second  (Alpha Romeo 8C) was taken from the same site, same section, using the same idea but more so the rail portion for the Pug to kinda "bond" sorta speak the two sections.  Figured since the Pug center to Dash section would take many hours of conversion the idea of working with what is already there came to me.  Let me know what you all think.   



http://www.freewebs.com/wolfen/Ferrari%20Superamerica%205.jpg


http://km77.com/marcas/alfa/2007/8c/gama/gra/30.jpg
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: STRDAL360 on March 24, 2009, 11:11:41 PM
How easily accessable are the Alpha Romeo 8C centre console parts??  :-\

I think this would be the easiest if Extreme would kindly mould and replicate genuine F430 interior/console parts that some members on this forum do hold.  So what do you say, Extreme?  ;)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Argus X575 on March 25, 2009, 12:35:32 AM
How easily accessable are the Alpha Romeo 8C centre console parts??  :-\

I think this would be the easiest if Extreme would kindly mould and replicate genuine F430 interior/console parts that some members on this forum do hold.  So what do you say, Extreme?  ;)

So STRDAL360 what did you think of the idea besides the assumed issue of time?  I was more on the note of just molding or bonding over hardened clay the type of rail thing on the Alpha Romeo but using it on the Pug for closer detail/fit, then taking the look of the first link's Ferrari console and adding the molded rail.  The main thing to take away is modifying the portion of Pug's console/dash lower section near the ashtray.  So when completed it should resemble slightly that of the Ferrari in the first link.  Also thanks for the input.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: STRDAL360 on March 25, 2009, 09:46:05 AM
I think your idea is good, Argus X575, though I didn't fully follow ...... sorry  :P

My main concerns are the air vents and the steering wheel.  Obviously the Pug has square vents and the F430's are circular and you will also need a circular panel to house the vents (that is if you can get hold of them).  Once you have those, you will have to somehow mount them to the Pug's dash.  Another forum mumber Jame81 was planning to replicate the steering wheel a while ago, not sure what stage he is at with that at the moment...

Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on April 07, 2009, 12:44:16 AM
Hey Extreme any updates about the F430, I saw a small pic on the F355 pages.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Argus X575 on April 07, 2009, 06:43:39 AM
Hey Extreme any updates about the F430, I saw a small pic on the F355 pages.  ;D ;D ;D
i just saw the site and caught the view on the upper heading as well.  If you click on our cars you will get a closer view.  By the way it looks superb.  Hats off on the new look of the site.  The tabs on the 360 side must be under construction because not all of them work.

If I am not being too nosy, has anyone been able to take advantage of the 430 kit opening offer or are you still saving >:( as I am?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: STRDAL360 on April 07, 2009, 09:10:24 AM
What opening offer is there on the 430 kit?   :o  Can someone tell me give me more details that?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: exabyte on April 07, 2009, 09:42:19 PM
Hey Extreme any updates about the F430, I saw a small pic on the F355 pages.  ;D ;D ;D
i just saw the site and caught the view on the upper heading as well.  If you click on our cars you will get a closer view.  By the way it looks superb.  Hats off on the new look of the site.  The tabs on the 360 side must be under construction because not all of them work.

The site doesnt look good trust me im a webdesigner, the usability is terrible as is the psychology behind the site the jumping layouts and everything done in flash... Pm me extreme if you're intereted in getting a website that reflects the quality of your products and skills
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Argus X575 on April 07, 2009, 10:21:54 PM
Hey Extreme any updates about the F430, I saw a small pic on the F355 pages.  ;D ;D ;D
i just saw the site and caught the view on the upper heading as well.  If you click on our cars you will get a closer view.  By the way it looks superb.  Hats off on the new look of the site.  The tabs on the 360 side must be under construction because not all of them work.

The site doesnt look good trust me im a webdesigner, the usability is terrible as is the psychology behind the site the jumping layouts and everything done in flash... Pm me extreme if you're intereted in getting a website that reflects the quality of your products and skills

Nice plug there exabyte but did you go all the way and why so brash?.  I am only asking as I want to understand what Web Designers look at and if you have or ever had any working relationship with Extreme.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: dazm1050 on April 08, 2009, 08:11:25 PM
my mac runs it all fine :S

got to agree though, the site could be significantly improved.

anyone else noticed how quiet it's been since the build threads got made private?

anywayyyy, updates on the 430? any pics will do. i'd like to compare the extreme 430 to the mr2kits version before i put any money down
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Argus X575 on April 09, 2009, 01:40:03 AM
Hey dazm1050, I am a fellow Mac user as well and have no issues getting in.  I did notice that on the 360 side of the site only a few of the links are working while the others just show the white (site not working) page.  And yes I did notice how quiet the site has been since the build diaries have gone private.  I understand it but it was the main draw as people were able to understand the level of knowledge necessary, get a full understanding of overall cost, common errors in build, kit integrity, amount of forum assistance, Extreme company assistance, and the overall pool of ideas from actual owners or soon to be owners.  Either way it goes I will more than likely have mine built by Extreme (once all is saved up) but would like to know what interior options there will be available so that I can get all things at once.  Hope everyone had a great day and enjoy your evening.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: STRDAL360 on April 09, 2009, 02:13:37 AM


anyone else noticed how quiet it's been since the build threads got made private?

anywayyyy, updates on the 430? any pics will do. i'd like to compare the extreme 430 to the mr2kits version before i put any money down

Agree and agree.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: STRDAL360 on April 09, 2009, 02:22:08 AM
Either way it goes I will more than likely have mine built by Extreme (once all is saved up) but would like to know what interior options there will be available so that I can get all things at once.  Hope everyone had a great day and enjoy your evening.

Couldn't agree more.  The interior options would be a bit of a headache for me and to tell you the truth, it was my act of searching (on the net) for interior options for the Extreme kit that led me to this forum.  I couldn't have been happier when I found this site and saw pictures of people's builds and stuff.  Now the build forum been made private and I am not a current builder (and I never will be due to my lack of knowledge about building kit cars and handiness, so will be talking to Extreme about building a 430 for me), I am left with begging other builders to share their pictures with me.  I totally understand the reasons behind making the build forum private, but however....  :(
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: exabyte on April 10, 2009, 12:10:53 PM
Nice plug there exabyte but did you go all the way and why so brash?.  I am only asking as I want to understand what Web Designers look at and if you have or ever had any working relationship with Extreme.

Well Personally its a pet hate of mine when amazing companies/brands have great products but terrible websites! Mainly because of the amount they could be improved..
I am a web designer but i've a avid interest in cars, and id say i've been watching extreme since about 2005..
I was originally interested in the murci but when i enquired the rate of exchange for euro against pound was crazy high!
So i spent the cash on a daily driver and a twin cam for restoring...
I'd love to have a working relationship with extreme i think their stuff is top quality and the site should reflect that so forgive if it came off as a insult or i was being brash
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Argus X575 on April 10, 2009, 03:25:39 PM
First off please forgive me as I did not mean to come off like an over protective mutt.  I am just very loyal to my friends and products that are of worth.  Like you and others the Extreme product is good quality and I was more trying to understand what you found to be unagreeable to your eye as  I wanted to see from your perspective as a professional.  i somewhat of a nosy learner, if that makes any sense.  I am saving and waiting to see what is being offered for interior I am hoping it will be somewhat along the line as the Murci where it is a full center console and the dash.  Really praying for fast relief in this lagging U.S. economy as I want my 430 as I want it at the introductory offer then get my wife's 360 built. Hope you all are having a good day and by the way welcome to the forum.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: zero2sixty on April 19, 2009, 06:15:55 AM
I hope the intro price stays the same until I buy one lol. Any updates? Anything will do. I've read that there would be a mr2 version. If so that would be great.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: bowser330 on April 28, 2009, 08:17:00 AM
F-430 on MR2 where are you????.....
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on May 05, 2009, 02:02:30 AM
We will have pictures soon of the 430, we are doing a bonded fit to the car including the kit at £8,000

Wow thats a really good price. Are therw any other updates, like a few pics or movies you could share with us  ;).

Greetz Munky  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Argus X575 on May 05, 2009, 04:18:26 AM
We will have pictures soon of the 430, we are doing a bonded fit to the car including the kit at £8,000

Wow thats a really good price. Are therw any other updates, like a few pics or movies you could share with us  ;).

Greetz Munky  ;D ;D ;D
Well I just read on the Stoneleigh 2009 section that robster was able to see some pics of the 430 as Extreme is not done with a few finishing touches.  i am awaiting eagerly, as I am sure we all are, but from what I learned so far is that Extreme will deliver on the quality.  So I guess we will chase our tails until we are thrown our bone.

But if Extreme is feeling generous we would love a peak or two or three or as many as four if you are pleased. ;)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on May 05, 2009, 10:13:10 AM
Yeah indeed, and I really don't care if I see an almost finished car or a finished car. I just want some new pics. Thats hope that robster makes photo's of the pictures.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: scooby on May 05, 2009, 11:56:02 AM
Is it gonna be MR-2 or pug 406 again?where is the pictures?come on guys post some pictures here  ;)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: scooby on May 07, 2009, 07:02:06 AM
Anyone see that 430 coupe????or any one has any pictures of that?when they plan to start selling of 430coupe?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EXTREME on May 07, 2009, 10:17:17 AM
Please be patient pics in a few weeks but they are good!!!

These are the new seats for the 430 and 360

(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n261/extreme_011/430seats.jpg)

(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n261/extreme_011/430seats1.jpg)

(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n261/extreme_011/430seats2.jpg)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on May 07, 2009, 12:53:05 PM
Yes finaly something haha, thanks extreme. Now I will be patient for a FEW weeks haha.

Greetz Munky.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Argus X575 on May 07, 2009, 07:35:54 PM
AAAHHHHHH, just like a Snickers-So Satisfying!  I do not know about anyone else but I am going to enjoy the pics for the next few weeks.  Correct me if i am wrong but they look similar or the same as the seats for the Murci, either way i like them.  Will Boradfieldz be building any 430 or 360 or will that remain "in-house" at Extreme?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: scooby on May 09, 2009, 01:25:06 PM
when Extreme said they will have the 430 on Mr2 what will be the dimensions.Is it gonna be like 360 coupe in full sizes or is it gonna be tiny car as they told about DJ 430.?Ok we can wait for pictures but it will be good if they can give us some information about the kit. ;)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: CdRsKuLL on May 09, 2009, 02:20:41 PM
It will be a replica of the real deal.. same size.  identical. Engine move same as the murcie to obtain the right wheelbase.. that was the last I heard anyway. :-)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: scooby on May 09, 2009, 02:29:17 PM
Thanks my friend.if you know, They will make the kit for both cars at same time or Mr2 will be the first? ;)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: bowser330 on May 09, 2009, 05:25:51 PM
406 first...mr2 second...thats what previous posts have said...
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: zero2sixty on May 09, 2009, 09:08:19 PM
How come they won't make it at the same time? If they make it next who knows how long that can be. At least can they assure us it will be this year or maybe 2010?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: scooby on May 10, 2009, 03:52:11 PM
Hey I guess it will be MR2 first.As I understand from the web site of the extreme "Welcome to Extreme Cars - your manufacturer of the best F355, F360, F430 and Murci replica body kits available. Convert your Toyota MR2 into the 355,360,430 or Murci or give a Peugeot 406 the look of the 360. On this site you'll find lots of pictures of the kits"
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Argus X575 on May 10, 2009, 04:32:55 PM
Keep in mind that The under typing on the website does not actually indicate in specific order to which the kits are worked on.  As the 355 was their first kit and it is not mentioned first. Extreme did say that they would be building the Pug-based 430 replica first then work on the MR2.  They gave no definitive answer as to why they were going with this order [no complaints here] but the only person that can answer that is Extreme or Extremesales.  Until they chime in we can just sit back and enjoy the ride.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: phoooby on May 10, 2009, 10:02:06 PM
I would suggest that th pug will come first as this is a (relativly) staightforward update of moulds as the R & D regarding donor and panel fit, roof chop etc has already been done on the 360 pug. The MR2 will undoubtedly be much more involved regarding doors, frame to change the windscreem etc. Having said that, the MR2 is looking like it's going to be worth waiting for if you want an mid mounted Audi V8 (see murci thread). Right number of cylinders in the right place.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on May 10, 2009, 10:17:31 PM
Just read all of the topics and this topic with all its pages about the F430, and Extreme constantly confirms that the Peug will be the first car they will build the F430 on.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: MC developments on May 10, 2009, 11:47:18 PM
Murchi V12...F430 V8...gallardo v10
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: bowser330 on May 11, 2009, 04:11:53 AM
Hey I guess it will be MR2 first.As I understand from the web site of the extreme "Welcome to Extreme Cars - your manufacturer of the best F355, F360, F430 and Murci replica body kits available. Convert your Toyota MR2 into the 355,360,430 or Murci or give a Peugeot 406 the look of the 360. On this site you'll find lots of pictures of the kits"

How does that statement infer that the MR2 will be built first??? ::)

MC, you are correct, phoooby was pointing out that the Mr2 with an audi v8 will have the correct number of cylinders in the correct place, for the 430.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: scooby on May 11, 2009, 06:29:07 AM
coz it says convert ur Mr2 to F360 and  F430.And said giv a Pug 406 look of the 360.thats why ;D.anyway the best thing is sit back and waiting from theirselves  ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: scooby on May 16, 2009, 08:53:11 AM
So this is another weekend,any updates for 430Coupe??????????????????????????????? :(
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on May 16, 2009, 10:08:04 AM
So this is another weekend,any updates for 430Coupe??????????????????????????????? :(

Hahaha you are going to try this every weekend ?  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EXTREME on May 16, 2009, 11:10:38 AM
Pics of the 430 on the 406will be coming in around 2 weeks, it will not be totally finished but will give you a good idea it should be completely finished in 4 weeks. We have the kits for this ready for sale now. The first one we built was sold to a customer wanting a car ready for paint, the next one we are building now is to be our show car.
The MR2 is been designed now, we should have some pics of that in three weeks but this will not be for sale for around 8 weeks as it needs to have the fixing points remoulded to fix it to the MR2. Our show car will have the V8 Audi in it.
I still say the 406 is the better one as it has the option of 4 seats and a big boot, you can also put a fake engine in there and they sound right with a 360 or 430 exhaust on, but the decision is yours
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: scooby on May 16, 2009, 11:13:46 AM
So this is another weekend,any updates for 430Coupe??????????????????????????????? :(

Hahaha you are going to try this every weekend ?  ;D ;D ;D
yes till I got the reply  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: scooby on May 16, 2009, 11:14:49 AM
Pics of the 430 on the 406will be coming in around 2 weeks, it will not be totally finished but will give you a good idea it should be completely finished in 4 weeks. We have the kits for this ready for sale now. The first one we built was sold to a customer wanting a car ready for paint, the next one we are building now is to be our show car.
The MR2 is been designed now, we should have some pics of that in three weeks but this will not be for sale for around 8 weeks as it needs to have the fixing points remoulded to fix it to the MR2. Our show car will have the V8 Audi in it.
I still say the 406 is the better one as it has the option of 4 seats and a big boot, you can also put a fake engine in there and they sound right with a 360 or 430 exhaust on, but the decision is yours

and we got it  ;D.thanks guys
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: zero2sixty on May 16, 2009, 11:31:27 AM
8 weeks and counting for the 430 on the mr2 :o !!!  You know i never thought i'll hear those words anytime soon. I was expecting the car to be done maybe around late fall/winter of 09. So sales for the mr2 430 kit will be on sale in 8 weeks right? or is it available now? I cant wait!
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on May 16, 2009, 11:50:05 AM
So this is another weekend,any updates for 430Coupe??????????????????????????????? :(

Hahaha you are going to try this every weekend ?  ;D ;D ;D
yes till I got the reply  ;D ;D ;D

Hahaha damn your tactics work, you had an answer within no time haha. Good job.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on May 16, 2009, 11:51:08 AM
Pics of the 430 on the 406will be coming in around 2 weeks, it will not be totally finished but will give you a good idea it should be completely finished in 4 weeks. We have the kits for this ready for sale now. The first one we built was sold to a customer wanting a car ready for paint, the next one we are building now is to be our show car.
The MR2 is been designed now, we should have some pics of that in three weeks but this will not be for sale for around 8 weeks as it needs to have the fixing points remoulded to fix it to the MR2. Our show car will have the V8 Audi in it.
I still say the 406 is the better one as it has the option of 4 seats and a big boot, you can also put a fake engine in there and they sound right with a 360 or 430 exhaust on, but the decision is yours


And Extreme thanks for the great news, I really can't wait.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: dazm1050 on May 16, 2009, 11:58:20 AM
extreme, do you have prices on the 406 and mr2 kits? are they the same?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EXTREME on May 16, 2009, 12:28:47 PM
extreme, do you have prices on the 406 and mr2 kits? are they the same?

They are both £6000 , same as the 360 was
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: dazm1050 on May 16, 2009, 12:33:23 PM
brilliant, thanks. has there been a list of exactly what is included/what else we need to buy, etc.?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: stevewushu on May 16, 2009, 01:33:03 PM
Gotta admit, I've been eagerly awaiting the extreme vanquish...
however the idea of a 430 with a rear mounted engine (mr2) makes me want one of those...
plus, if you drop in an audi v8!!!  :o :o :o

sounds VERY tempting!

how is the development on the vanquish going btw.... ;)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: zero2sixty on May 17, 2009, 12:50:52 AM
Gotta admit, I've been eagerly awaiting the extreme vanquish...
however the idea of a 430 with a rear mounted engine (mr2) makes me want one of those...
plus, if you drop in an audi v8!!!  :o :o :o

sounds VERY tempting!

how is the development on the vanquish going btw.... ;)

Hey only f430 or GALLARDO topics should be spoken in this thread lol j/p.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EVOchen on May 19, 2009, 07:35:44 AM
need photo pls
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on May 19, 2009, 11:36:20 AM
need photo pls

A few post back they told us that they will post pics in about 2 weeks.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: V10 on May 19, 2009, 08:54:34 PM
Will it be possible to buy the build DVD seperately for the F430?  I want to see what's required and then carefully select the donor and parts, build the base before purchasing the kit.  Anyone have an opinion on that?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on May 19, 2009, 09:43:39 PM
Will it be possible to buy the build DVD seperately for the F430?  I want to see what's required and then carefully select the donor and parts, build the base before purchasing the kit.  Anyone have an opinion on that?

That’s a good one, because I would like see what’s needed to build a car like this.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: scooby on May 20, 2009, 06:59:53 AM
Will it be possible to buy the build DVD seperately for the F430?  I want to see what's required and then carefully select the donor and parts, build the base before purchasing the kit.  Anyone have an opinion on that?

That’s a good one, because I would like see what’s needed to build a car like this.  ;D ;D ;D
Yes it will be great if we can see how its gonna done ;)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: bowser330 on May 20, 2009, 08:37:57 AM
I am pretty sure there is a reason behind them selling the build dvds with the £6000 kits..... ;)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: V10 on May 20, 2009, 09:31:21 AM
Oh well, will just have to give the fella's at Extreme a call and waste their time with my dumb ass questions :(  It would be good if we could download a PDF datasheet from the website which gives a breakdown of parts required, donor vehicle spec and engine options etc..

BTW, just seen the new F430 pages on the website (http://extreme-sportscars.com/430/home_430.html).  I want the MR2 with the V8 option..
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Drew355 on May 20, 2009, 12:10:33 PM
Either way, 406 or MR2, you will not get very far without the kit. The donor could be serviced and brakes or engine components (if keeping original) checked over/serviced, but there is only really a weekends work at the most removing the panels before cutting and the kit parts are needed.

If you are going for the V8, it sounds like you already have an idea of the engine options, they are only just being finalised at the moment anyway. The 360/430 dvd already available relates to the Pug build up, which wouldnt be much good to you if you want to do the MR2 option. The Murci dvd shows the strut and engine mount movement on the MR2, but wont be exactly relevant since the wheelbase of the 430 is different. The same method is used, but all of the dimensions and locations of cutouts etc will be different for the 430.

If you want to prepare before getting the kit the only things you can get are, MR2 adjustable suspension (or lowering springs), the Mk2 Mr2 itself, wheels, the Audi donor engine and box inc loom, rear 430 lights, badges etc.

Extreme really are the best people to talk to if you are serious about a kit. They wont think you are wasting their time... its their business to give you all the info you need and help you decide !!!!

The forum is great for once you are building, but for sales, its best to get the info from the extreme blokes themselves.

Good luck with the build!
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: STRDAL360 on May 20, 2009, 12:19:40 PM
Damian, can you show us some interior photos of the 430?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: V10 on May 20, 2009, 09:44:39 PM
Thanks for the heads up Drew355.  I'm not a mechanic or particularly "handy" (i'm a project manager) so the weekend work would probably be 4 weekends in a row for me ;)  I would have thought there would have been more work to do in order to get the V8 into the back of the MR2?  I would plan on buying a good condition MR2 for up to £1K, stripping the body panels and engine, uprating the breaks and suspension then doing some cutting.   The engine and loom would give me nightmares, but i'm ready for the challenge.  I would like to get the engine in the car, sort out the suspension and breaks and by then have enough dollar to buy some decent rims and rubber.  I would then buy the kit, fit the panels and spend time getting them fitted properly and prepared for paint.  Unfortunately, I forsee my build taking a long time because i'm inexperienced and at the same time a perfectionist.  I have owned a kit car in the past, but it was prebuilt with a 3 litre ford engine (a Covin). 

I'm thinking about going to one of the Kit car shows this summer and having a chat with the Extreme team.   
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on May 20, 2009, 10:23:31 PM
Thanks for the heads up Drew355.  I'm not a mechanic or particularly "handy" (i'm a project manager) so the weekend work would probably be 4 weekends in a row for me ;)  I would have thought there would have been more work to do in order to get the V8 into the back of the MR2?  I would plan on buying a good condition MR2 for up to £1K, stripping the body panels and engine, uprating the breaks and suspension then doing some cutting.   The engine and loom would give me nightmares, but i'm ready for the challenge.  I would like to get the engine in the car, sort out the suspension and breaks and by then have enough dollar to buy some decent rims and rubber.  I would then buy the kit, fit the panels and spend time getting them fitted properly and prepared for paint.  Unfortunately, I forsee my build taking a long time because i'm inexperienced and at the same time a perfectionist.  I have owned a kit car in the past, but it was prebuilt with a 3 litre ford engine (a Covin). 

I'm thinking about going to one of the Kit car shows this summer and having a chat with the Extreme team.   

Well that’s a good idea, when is Extreme coming to the Netherlands. I will come for sure, but the only problem I see is that there not coming to the Netherlands so I guess I need to come to England haha. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: zero2sixty on May 21, 2009, 05:30:08 AM
Oh well, will just have to give the fella's at Extreme a call and waste their time with my dumb ass questions :(  It would be good if we could download a PDF datasheet from the website which gives a breakdown of parts required, donor vehicle spec and engine options etc..

BTW, just seen the new F430 pages on the website (http://extreme-sportscars.com/430/home_430.html).  I want the MR2 with the V8 option..

If it wasn't for this person I wouldn't have known extreme changed their homepage. HOW COME NO ONE TOLD ME?  >:( ....lol

The 430 looks insane. You guys also put the wheels I wanted on there. LOL @ the car under the sheets. Can you guys tell us what it is already?  :P
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Sid09 on May 21, 2009, 07:28:18 AM
I picked up the change in the site yesterday. the 430 looks insane! it's back to the top of my list, again :)

One point though, the site is now pretty disjointed between the old and the new and looks a bit messy. Hopefully the guys will get that sorted soon, but it's better having some new bits there than not and wondering.

I think it's safe to say that the guys at Extreme are leading the way in terms of High Quality Amazing looking replicas. Every time I look on the site I feel like a kid again, and that it the ultimate point of supercars - but this time there is the added bonus of knowing that these are in reach of us mortals and not just the preserve of the super rich elite and Paris Hilton's of this world.

Thanks Extreme. You know how to make a car nut happy (and keep him sane)  :)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on May 21, 2009, 11:32:15 AM
I picked up the change in the site yesterday. the 430 looks insane! it's back to the top of my list, again :)

One point though, the site is now pretty disjointed between the old and the new and looks a bit messy. Hopefully the guys will get that sorted soon, but it's better having some new bits there than not and wondering.

I think it's safe to say that the guys at Extreme are leading the way in terms of High Quality Amazing looking replicas. Every time I look on the site I feel like a kid again, and that it the ultimate point of supercars - but this time there is the added bonus of knowing that these are in reach of us mortals and not just the preserve of the super rich elite and Paris Hilton's of this world.

Thanks Extreme. You know how to make a car nut happy (and keep him sane)  :)

I totaly agree with you.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Argus X575 on May 21, 2009, 05:33:01 PM
Now that I have those eight prayers answered.  I have only two more, as far as Extreme, prayers soon to come true.  I like the 430 site or addition there of  and will continue to watch the site for the goodies to come as far as the Q&A and gallery.  Hey if Extreme if you are listening up there.......  We are quite impressed and still watching, saving, and drooling over here in the States. I am currently trying to convince my wife to change her mind that we could get two 430s' but she is sticking with the 360.  In any case I am so glad that the 430 is officially here and hoping the £8K bonded fitted price does not change until those of us across the pond save it up and that we may buy ours.  I have expressed some ideas to the wife concerning that but, I am sure everyone is too busy getting themselves ready to dive in on the 430.


Great work Extreme and can not wait to see the pics from the Newark show.  Really would like to attend a show or two in Merry England and maybe meet everyone on the chat and at Extreme.  Have a great evening over there and be safe.


BTW for those of us in the States as well as elsewhere that may want to stop spelling the official currency moniker you can use the ctrl+3 keys for PC and for Mac users it is the command+3 keys.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: zero2sixty on May 21, 2009, 08:19:58 PM
Bonded and fitted? I don't understand. If you live across the pond I thought you can only by the kit. How can they bond and fit it for you when they are not over here?

ps...still don't know how to write british pounds. ctr + ???
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: NITETRAINF30 on May 22, 2009, 12:26:07 AM
Have extreme released a youtube vid yet of the 4tirty. Has anyone got a link they could post. Awesome work extreme!! I thought Dave Jones kit was good and it is good but use guys seemed to have topped the biscut on this one. The only thing that was niggiling me about DJ's kit was the rear overhang, it was just to long for my liking but thats only me, to other people it could look perfect!! DJ's kit is totaly awesome but if im going to invest in one of these kits its gotta sit rite wit me because I know down the line id end up getting totaly pissed at that one thing. How much for a comprehensive kit for the 406. Ps have you got pics of the mr2 build? Question what width height & length is your finished 406 4tirty? Ive asked this to everyone! just because im trying to get the closes dimensions to the real thing and Im thinking that the 406 is super close bar the height???
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EXTREME on May 22, 2009, 09:29:32 AM
Have extreme released a youtube vid yet of the 4tirty. Has anyone got a link they could post. Awesome work extreme!! I thought Dave Jones kit was good and it is good but use guys seemed to have topped the biscut on this one. The only thing that was niggiling me about DJ's kit was the rear overhang, it was just to long for my liking but thats only me, to other people it could look perfect!! DJ's kit is totaly awesome but if im going to invest in one of these kits its gotta sit rite wit me because I know down the line id end up getting totaly pissed at that one thing. How much for a comprehensive kit for the 406. Ps have you got pics of the mr2 build? Question what width height & length is your finished 406 4tirty? Ive asked this to everyone! just because im trying to get the closes dimensions to the real thing and Im thinking that the 406 is super close bar the height???


The 430 and 360 have both been moulded of genuine cars. The difference between the genuine and replicas is the length, the length of the replica is 1 ½ inch longer, we added ¾ inch to the end of the door where it meets the wing (fender) and ¾ inch to the end of the wing where it meets the door, also the windscreen A post pillar is 1 ½ inch wider this is all we changed on the genuine body. The cars are on coilovers so its your choice how high you have it, it will sit at the same height as a genuine if you want 

The windscreens on the MR2 are 6 inch shorter on height (top to bottom) and 4 inch narrower on width so we have had to replace the screen on the MR2 based 430 to get the right screen angle (rake) and move the engine (rear wheels) back 8 inch
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Drew355 on May 22, 2009, 10:58:30 AM
  I would have thought there would have been more work to do in order to get the V8 into the back of the MR2?  I would plan on buying a good condition MR2 for up to £1K, stripping the body panels and engine, uprating the breaks and suspension then doing some cutting.   The engine and loom would give me nightmares, but i'm ready for the challenge.  I would like to get the engine in the car, sort out the suspension and breaks and by then have enough dollar to buy some decent rims and rubber.  I would then buy the kit, fit the panels and spend time getting them fitted properly and prepared for paint. 

There is a decent amount of work to do, but the engine swap cannot be done without the kit. The car comes as steelwork and fibreglass panels. You will need all the steelwork before you can start cutting the car & doing the suspension. The rear struts are moved back 8 inches (I think) and all the metalwork and laser cut parts to do this are in the kit.

The engine mountings are moved, support struts, gear linkage extensions, etc etc are all in the kit so all you can do without the kit is strip off all the mr2 body panels and maybe cut out the boot area.

Going to a show would be a really good move, you can ask loads of qns and one of the team can describe exactly what will be involved.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: V10 on May 22, 2009, 02:03:59 PM
  I would have thought there would have been more work to do in order to get the V8 into the back of the MR2?  I would plan on buying a good condition MR2 for up to £1K, stripping the body panels and engine, uprating the breaks and suspension then doing some cutting.   The engine and loom would give me nightmares, but i'm ready for the challenge.  I would like to get the engine in the car, sort out the suspension and breaks and by then have enough dollar to buy some decent rims and rubber.  I would then buy the kit, fit the panels and spend time getting them fitted properly and prepared for paint. 

There is a decent amount of work to do, but the engine swap cannot be done without the kit. The car comes as steelwork and fibreglass panels. You will need all the steelwork before you can start cutting the car & doing the suspension. The rear struts are moved back 8 inches (I think) and all the metalwork and laser cut parts to do this are in the kit.

The engine mountings are moved, support struts, gear linkage extensions, etc etc are all in the kit so all you can do without the kit is strip off all the mr2 body panels and maybe cut out the boot area.

Going to a show would be a really good move, you can ask loads of qns and one of the team can describe exactly what will be involved.

Thanks Drew355, I see the logic now.  With this in mind, it may be worth buying the kit, having the steelwork sent to me so I can do the engine fit and chassis extension then having the car taken to Extreme for the panel fit and bonding?  The extra £2K should ensure I get a nice smooth finish to the bodywork. 
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EXTREME on May 22, 2009, 07:35:49 PM
To save people emailing since my last post. The front A posts stay as standard (un touched) even though there is a new windscreen to be installed, its hard to explain but pics will show soon. We are doing the engine moves with the V8 Audi fitted for £1000, you must supply the engine, or full car for us to take the engine out off. You can get a full Audi V8 for less than £900 so after selling the rest of the parts from the Audi car, the engine should be free!!!!!
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: V10 on May 22, 2009, 08:54:24 PM
To save people emailing since my last post. The front A posts stay as standard (un touched) even though there is a new windscreen to be installed, its hard to explain but pics will show soon. We are doing the engine moves with the V8 Audi fitted for £1000, you must supply the engine, or full car for us to take the engine out off. You can get a full Audi V8 for less than £900 so after selling the rest of the parts from the Audi car, the engine should be free!!!!!

Most of the 1992+ Audi V8 4.2 car's I see are £2500+ with high mileage, for example this ebay URL is an example;

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Audi-A8-4-2-V8-Quattro-Priv-Plate-FSH-Auto-Full-T-T_W0QQitemZ230341507313QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutomobiles_UK?hash=item35a16c78f1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A7%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

My question is, is this the kind of V8 we're looking for?  Is the tiptronic box OK to use or should we look for the 6spd manual shift?

Thanks in advance
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: MC developments on May 22, 2009, 09:31:42 PM
All Uk A8's are auto's so you'll need to source a compatible gearbox and to ditch the flex plate and fit a suitableflywheel, clutch and pressure plate, you'll also need to get a set of driveshafts converted , the right length and re balanced to fit the Mr2 hubs. If its post 93 you'll also need to fit a pair of cats to pass the MOT, although you may be able to get away with one high performance one, but that does mean combinig the exhausts.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: V10 on May 23, 2009, 01:03:53 PM
All Uk A8's are auto's so you'll need to source a compatible gearbox and to ditch the flex plate and fit a suitableflywheel, clutch and pressure plate, you'll also need to get a set of driveshafts converted , the right length and re balanced to fit the Mr2 hubs. If its post 93 you'll also need to fit a pair of cats to pass the MOT, although you may be able to get away with one high performance one, but that does mean combinig the exhausts.

Thank you for your reply MC Developments ;)  So, i'm looking for an A4 or A6 with a 6spd manual box to avoid the "hassle" you describe above in your post?  I read a previous post from you that mentioned how expensive the flywheel is, so definately want to avoid that.  Not seeing that many smaller saloon Audi V8's out there at the moment.  Will keep searching, thanks for the heads up.     
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: MC developments on May 23, 2009, 05:48:29 PM
if I recall correctly the only V8 manuals will be S4's and maybe a new S6, its cheaper to get the A8 and convert it.

Something like this http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Breaking-Audi-4-2-V8-4-2-AHC-S8-Engine-Uprated-ABZ_W0QQitemZ370193958510QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item563147866e&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1689%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Breaking-Audi-4-2-V8-4-2-AHC-S8-Engine-Uprated-ABZ_W0QQitemZ370193958510QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item563147866e&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1689%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50)

But not that one as the mileage is too high  ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EXTREME on May 23, 2009, 06:36:48 PM
if I recall correctly the only V8 manuals will be S4's and maybe a new S6, its cheaper to get the A8 and convert it.

Something like this http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Breaking-Audi-4-2-V8-4-2-AHC-S8-Engine-Uprated-ABZ_W0QQitemZ370193958510QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item563147866e&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1689%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Breaking-Audi-4-2-V8-4-2-AHC-S8-Engine-Uprated-ABZ_W0QQitemZ370193958510QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item563147866e&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1689%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50)

But not that one as the mileage is too high  ;D


Thanks for the help on this one MC it’s all appreciated!!!! As you know we are only just starting to do the conversions and knowing which cars are the best to take the engines out helps everyone. Installing the engines is no problem but we need all parts for the customers as cheap as possible
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: MC developments on May 23, 2009, 07:59:55 PM
I'm currently modd'in some driveshafts as part of an MK3 to audi V8  conversion, but if you have any mk2 queries let me know be glad to help
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: V10 on May 23, 2009, 08:06:21 PM
if I recall correctly the only V8 manuals will be S4's and maybe a new S6, its cheaper to get the A8 and convert it.

Something like this http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Breaking-Audi-4-2-V8-4-2-AHC-S8-Engine-Uprated-ABZ_W0QQitemZ370193958510QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item563147866e&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1689%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Breaking-Audi-4-2-V8-4-2-AHC-S8-Engine-Uprated-ABZ_W0QQitemZ370193958510QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item563147866e&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1689%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50)

But not that one as the mileage is too high  ;D


Thanks for the help on this one MC it’s all appreciated!!!! As you know we are only just starting to do the conversions and knowing which cars are the best to take the engines out helps everyone. Installing the engines is no problem but we need all parts for the customers as cheap as possible

I second that Extreme, thanks MC!!  I notice from the pictures in the \Extreme Murcie\Audi V8 AND V10\ post that you have used an A8 V8 in the MR2.  I done some research in Wikipedia and read that the V8 in the A4 and A6 was optional as the standard engine was a 2.2L turbo motor.  The earlier S4 was between 1992 and 1994 and the S6 1994-1997 with the S8 from 1997.  I have seen some A8's (not S8's) with the 4.2 V8, but they have all been automatic, although the manual does exist ;)  In the US there are plenty of Audi V8's on Ebay.  
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: bowser330 on May 26, 2009, 03:43:45 AM
I wonder if a longitudinal v8 conversion is an option for the 406....you would have to cut the firewall and make room for the driveshaft, as well as transplant a live rear axle...but I think that would be a very cool option to make the 406 RWD....put all the front engine haters on there toes...
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: phoooby on May 26, 2009, 09:52:41 AM
If you are going to the effort of an engine change and installing a new rear axle you might as well go the whole way and do a mid engine conversion on the peugeot but that would be a huge amount of work, you would loose the 4 seater option so you might as well go with the MR2 version instead.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: V10 on May 26, 2009, 08:19:30 PM
I wonder if a longitudinal v8 conversion is an option for the 406....you would have to cut the firewall and make room for the driveshaft, as well as transplant a live rear axle...but I think that would be a very cool option to make the 406 RWD....put all the front engine haters on there toes...

It's an option to have another Pug V6 in the rear of the 406.  I read the 360 FAQ and EXTREME mentioned that they would produce a number of cars with this configuration.  I like the idea of having 2 motors and 4 wheel drive :)  You would have the performance to match the looks...
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: bowser330 on May 27, 2009, 07:55:37 AM
wouldnt you have to sync up the rpms of both motors, is that difficult? would they naturally align their indivisual rpms?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: phoooby on May 27, 2009, 09:32:12 AM
wouldnt you have to sync up the rpms of both motors, is that difficult? would they naturally align their indivisual rpms?

The millitary tried to do a mini moke like this in the 1960's and the idea was scrapped as it was too difficult. If your after a challange and 4x4 why not fit BMW X5 (4.4 v8) in a tube chassis for a murci. Turn the engine 180 degrees so the engine is at the back, the gearbox and transfer box are in the middle. Run driveshafts to the front an back and you potentially have a true 4x4 murci replica.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EXTREME on May 27, 2009, 10:01:50 AM
wouldnt you have to sync up the rpms of both motors, is that difficult? would they naturally align their indivisual rpms?

The millitary tried to do a mini moke like this in the 1960's and the idea was scrapped as it was too difficult. If your after a challange and 4x4 why not fit BMW X5 (4.4 v8) in a tube chassis for a murci. Turn the engine 180 degrees so the engine is at the back, the gearbox and transfer box are in the middle. Run driveshafts to the front an back and you potentially have a true 4x4 murci replica.



If you do this it will go 150mph in reverse and 20 mph going forward unless you use two diffs that will run OK upside down. It is doable but you must also understand they have a centre diff as well that will need to put the power to the opposite wheels that it would normally do, More to the rear.
This is how we are doing our new production car with the Audi V6 twin turbo(THE THING) but we use an expensive electronic centre diff with new computers. I think it would end up been expensive unless people wish to be happy with a 50/50 drive to the front and back wheels 
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: phoooby on May 27, 2009, 11:03:01 PM
Yes; the quick reversing car could be an issue !. I'm sure something could be done with swapping diffs front and rear or changing the crown wheel over or as you say running the diff upside down if it will run that way; possibly seal the filler plug and tap a new one so sufficient lube can be added? I guess the ultimate would be to attach a tuned BMW V12 to get a replica in every element but now were entering the world of an expensive pipe dream !?. 

Back to reality ;  All the A8' I have seen are auto's. S4,S6, S8's are all 4x4 as far as I can tell so unless someone knows better than me; it would therefore not seem to be possible to buy one car to get all the bits you need. I would suggest getting the v8 car with all ecu's etc (an A8) is the way to go as there are plenty of gearbox's on ebay?. I assume the gear linkages are supplied in the v8 conversion kit ?.

I read that A6 diesel/tdi box was the one to go for due to low final drive ratio and able to stand prolonged abuse and high torque but I that may only relate to attaching the BMW v12.  Anyone know any better and also do all audi gearbox's and engines fit together easily or is a conversion plate or adaptor needed?

Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: bowser330 on May 29, 2009, 10:01:36 AM
Thanks for your replies guys..but here is the dilemma.. I need an auto trans...so the whole audi-transaxle deal is out the window for me....the options out there for automatic transaxles are WEAK to say the least...just not something thats very available and I am not going to put down 10K$ USD for some race-sequential-brush your teeth for you- gearbox...so...thats where I am at...any ideas?

What I was thinking is getting the 406/430 and in place of the transverse v6/I4 put a longitudinal LS1 V8 (corvette/camaro SS/etc). Then cut the firewall, rebuild it around the auto trans and driveshaft. Install the stout longitudinal auto tranny and driveshaft back to a corvette rear end...could this work?


Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Drew355 on May 29, 2009, 12:08:11 PM
Thats a whole lot of work and is likely to cause probs in the cabin and stuff like the steering rack etc. Also the transverse engine is a tight fit under the bonnet so to put an in line larger one in is likely to stick up too much at the front. You would have to do lots of measuring on a car with no engine in, but I would say its a bit of a non starter.

Far better to spend the money you would have to pay for all that work & fit it mid with an auto box.
 
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: X-HOTT on May 29, 2009, 02:51:54 PM
Hey peeps..want to say hi to every single person on this forum.. Been following the site since it was launched..and been following extreme since the 355 years back.. Its good to see how far the company has grown and to me no doubt in my mind the best of the best in the kitcar industry  :P .. Question, On there website you have a full build option for 8 grand or the other option of ready for paint for 3 grand, now if I was to go for this option, what will I have to do to complete the car, im guessing just painting the car and putting the interior back in and sorting out the coilovers, or maybe putting the lights in myself too, What else? More info would be great.. Thanks
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: janman92 on May 30, 2009, 03:38:44 PM

why is on the extreme sportscars website already posted that you can buy a 430 from now on although there are no pictures of a finished car ?
i cabt await some results!!!!
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EVOchen on May 31, 2009, 02:35:52 AM

why is on the extreme sportscars website already posted that you can buy a 430 from now on although there are no pictures of a finished car ?
i cabt await some results!!!!

same issue. why?why?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: CdRsKuLL on May 31, 2009, 08:39:31 AM
The panels and the frame have been finished and as the rest of the components are the same as the 360 barr the lights its near enough all good to go and can be bought right now. There demo car is getting completed at the moment using these finished parts and I'm hoping it will be ready very soon.. matter of weeks !! (fingers crossed). I dare say the picture of the 430 on there site is a real one.. but as extreme's car is built from pulled panels from the real deal then you wouldnt know the difference...

Really looking forward to this one...

Steve
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: janman92 on May 31, 2009, 10:25:20 AM
have you heard of  http://www.mr2kits.co.uk/  i think looking at their kit
its very nice but there are no ferrari logos on the car
but i found them as i googeld for some 430 replicas.

looking forward for some results
 jan
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EXTREME on May 31, 2009, 10:43:40 AM
have you heard of  http://www.mr2kits.co.uk/  i think looking at their kit
its very nice but there are no ferrari logos on the car
but i found them as i googeld for some 430 replicas.

looking forward for some results
 jan


The set up they use is not safe as they say they are the same width as the genuine car but they have not lengthened the wheel base so this means there wheelbase to track ratio is in the 1.4s this is a no no when designing body kits!!!!!! It will spin very easy in the wet or going fast
Please do not take peoples word that this setup is safe as it is not, look into it and ask the RIGHT people that know about chassis design and geometry they will ALL tell you it is not safe
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: janman92 on May 31, 2009, 10:59:21 AM
you mean that there is a huge overhang??
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EXTREME on May 31, 2009, 11:54:27 AM
you mean that there is a huge overhang??



If you change a cars wheel base and track it can have a dramatic affect on the cars handling, the perfect track to wheel base is that the track should be 1.6 % of the wheel base, if the percentage (raitio) rises then the car will handle better at high speeds this is how a formula 1 car is it is around 1.9%. If you make the track wider but do not lengthen the wheel base like on a lot of  body conversions out there you will cause handling problems, normal driving will not be affected but going fast round a corner will end up with the car swapping ends (spinning round) especially in the wet. This is a big problem in the body kit industry people design kits and think “ everyone else uses hub extensions so I will”  what they don’t understand is the consequences if they reduce the percentage dramatically under 1.6% they could be causing accidents, so the wheel base of a car needs to be extended for it to handle properly (engine moved back) if the percentage is higher than 1.6 to start with then its OK to use a spacer without changing the wheel base (like our pug 406 360/430)  If we didn’t extend the wheelbase on the MR2 430 and used hub extensions to bring the track wider like a lot of other kits out there it would end up with a dramatic  percentage decrease coming down to 1.46% and this is NOT safe to go fast in, only plodding around like a girl round town. If someone tries to tell you different then they need lessons on the geometry of cars and should not be in this business


Our 430 on the MR2 has a percentage of 1.6%
Our murci on the MR2 has a percentage of 1.6%
Our 36/430 on the pug has a percentage of  1.62% larger been OK

A standard MR2 has a percentage of 1.63 longer been OK, bringing this down to 1.46 (by putting a 430 body on)as it would be with no engine move is asking for trouble, rear wheel drive in the wet with this percentage in my eyes is ignorance

A genuine 430 is 1.6

A genuine murci is 1.6

This is the main reason why hub extensions (spacers) are banned in some countries. It’s not because they are not safe its because they alter the percentages of track to wheel base and cause accidents. In Australia where car alteration is hard to get round they only let you alter the width of the track on a car by 1 inch as this would keep it in a safe percentage close to manufacturers design 
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: janman92 on May 31, 2009, 11:04:18 PM
will you offer a spyder kit??
or only the coupe kit??
greets jan
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: zero2sixty on May 31, 2009, 11:11:05 PM
It will only be the coupe. You can choose from it being on a pug or mr2. The pug version is out right now if you want it.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: janman92 on June 01, 2009, 12:37:49 PM
and the donor car will be the mr2 w2??
and the engine will be moved in the back???
and if for how much mm ??
greets jan
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: bowser330 on June 02, 2009, 05:25:55 AM
pictures on the web of the 430 look great Extreme...

I think you said this before previously but maybe you could give a bit more info of how much easier it is to build this compared to the 360?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: scooby on June 02, 2009, 06:13:39 AM
pictures on the web of the 430 look great Extreme...

I think you said this before previously but maybe you could give a bit more info of how much easier it is to build this compared to the 360?

I guess it s the real deal thats why  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: V10 on June 04, 2009, 12:36:03 AM
pictures on the web of the 430 look great Extreme...

I think you said this before previously but maybe you could give a bit more info of how much easier it is to build this compared to the 360?

Scooby's right, that's a real 430 on the Extreme website, but should look identical anyway  ::)

I should imagine the build will almost be the same as the 360 if you're using the Peugeot 406 as a donor (someone please correct me if im wrong).  The body panels are different but the cutting and framework should almost be identical..
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: CdRsKuLL on June 04, 2009, 09:05:07 AM
When I spoke to extreme about the 430 they confirmed it would be an easier build than there current 360. :-)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: scooby on June 04, 2009, 12:07:31 PM
Not any pictures yet ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on June 04, 2009, 02:58:26 PM
Not any pictures yet ??? ??? ???

Yeah the two weeks have past haha.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EVOchen on June 05, 2009, 04:58:20 AM
Not any pictures yet ??? ??? ???
same
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EXTREME on June 05, 2009, 08:39:11 AM
early next week befor it goes to paint I will take some pics for you
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on June 05, 2009, 11:04:28 AM
early next week befor it goes to paint I will take some pics for you

Niceee.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: X-HOTT on June 06, 2009, 12:57:30 AM
 :P OMG I won't sleep till then! Thanks Extreme
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EVOchen on June 06, 2009, 02:06:40 AM
early next week befor it goes to paint I will take some pics for you

sweeeeeeeet ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Argus X575 on June 07, 2009, 05:25:26 AM
You have put a smile on my face ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  Still plotting still planning.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: STRDAL360 on June 10, 2009, 04:23:05 AM
Pictures, please.   ;)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: scooby on June 10, 2009, 06:41:06 AM
yes pictures please guys ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EVOchen on June 10, 2009, 09:59:28 AM
Pictures, please.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on June 10, 2009, 10:26:29 AM
Pictures, please.   ;)

My words haha.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: BLAZE on June 10, 2009, 01:53:28 PM
Pictures, please.
+1 .Thanks
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EVOchen on June 11, 2009, 09:05:35 AM
Pictures, please.   ;)

My words haha.  ;D ;D ;D

lolzz ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: scooby on June 11, 2009, 01:49:22 PM
Come on guys send some pictures   :( :( :(
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: nolis on June 11, 2009, 10:11:47 PM
Hi,
I'm very unsecured about the total sum of this kit, I see the kit is for 6000 and full build for 8000, is the kit included with the 8000 or will it be extra 6000 ? How much do I have to pay, if I spent the car for fitting within the total kit ?

Thanks Noli
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: redone355 on June 11, 2009, 10:26:00 PM
You can buy the kit for £6000 and fit it yourself or give them your donor and they will supply and fit the kit fully bonded for £8000.  That means you then have to finish the car off to whatever spec you want.  But for the £8k you get all the cutting a welding dry fitting and bonding done for you.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: scooby on June 12, 2009, 06:32:14 AM
Heyy where is the pictures????you really doing this car or not ?? :-\
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: snowmanappie on June 12, 2009, 07:57:42 AM
Heyy where is the pictures????you really doing this car or not ?? :-\

Have a little more patience my friend, they will come. Photografy is not there core business you know ;)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: nolis on June 12, 2009, 08:06:04 AM
ok so this means that the kit is included, and I'll get an unpainted car with the f430 outside body mounted on my peugeot for 8000, right ?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: hums69 on June 12, 2009, 09:27:30 AM
ok so this means that the kit is included, and I'll get an unpainted car with the f430 outside body mounted on my peugeot for 8000, right ?

I'm not sure but as far as i can make out from the website the kit costs £6000 and a part build costs £3000 (fitting and bonding of the kit)
Full build labour is £8000
So if a part build is £6000 for kit and £3000 labour that's a total of £9000
Then the figure of £8000 for full build cannot include the kit because then they would be charging £9000 part build with kit and £8000 full build with kit which dosn't make sense
So as far as i can make out the £8000 figure dosn't include a kit
Someone like to correct me ?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: hums69 on June 12, 2009, 09:31:51 AM
Also guys i'm like everyone else where's the pictures ?
It takes all of 2 mins to take some pics guys come on stop teasing !
I thought they were promised in a couple of weeks over a month ago
Extreme i never been to a kitcar show before but am going to Newark 2009 purely to see your f430
Is it goiing to be there
Please let that be a yes !!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: scooby on June 12, 2009, 11:57:11 AM
Heyy where is the pictures????you really doing this car or not ?? :-\

Have a little more patience my friend, they will come. Photografy is not there core business you know ;)

Its being two weeks my friend.and ? m sure most of us are waiting for extreme's for final decision to which kit we ll go thats why.And to be honest with you if I ll go for something I have to have it quickly otherwise I ll move to someothers ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EVOchen on June 12, 2009, 12:22:51 PM
Heyy where is the pictures????you really doing this car or not ?? :-\

Have a little more patience my friend, they will come. Photografy is not there core business you know ;)

Its being two weeks my friend.and ? m sure most of us are waiting for extreme's for final decision to which kit we ll go thats why.And to be honest with you if I ll go for something I have to have it quickly otherwise I ll move to someothers ;) ;) ;)


yeah,mate

we need more info
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Drew355 on June 12, 2009, 12:37:05 PM
Chill!!! Extreme have said they will give you pre release pics if they can, as soon as they are available. If you had just spent months working on something, would you want to just take a crappy pic of it with maybe some bits not quite finally fitted or covered in dust, or trim not on, when you could wait a little while longer and take a good one. First impressions matter, especially with how critical the replica industry is.

Im sure they will give us pics when they are ready, stop hassling!!!
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: hums69 on June 12, 2009, 12:56:47 PM
Chill!!! Extreme have said they will give you pre release pics if they can, as soon as they are available. If you had just spent months working on something, would you want to just take a crappy pic of it with maybe some bits not quite finally fitted or covered in dust, or trim not on, when you could wait a little while longer and take a good one. First impressions matter, especially with how critical the replica industry is.

Im sure they will give us pics when they are ready, stop hassling!!!

I thought everyone wanted to see progress pictures not just the final product
If extreme don't want to show any pictures till it's finished then that's their call but i think most of the people on this forum would like to see any pictures along the way to it being finshed
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: redone355 on June 12, 2009, 12:57:18 PM
We will have pictures soon of the 430, we are doing a bonded fit to the car including the kit at £8,000


We know the kit is £6K and the quote from Ash above shows the kit bonded for £8K.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: hums69 on June 12, 2009, 01:05:55 PM
We will have pictures soon of the 430, we are doing a bonded fit to the car including the kit at £8,000


We know the kit is £6K and the quote from Ash above shows the kit bonded for £8K.

Fair enough if that's what they quoted then that's what it is
What's the diffence between £3000 part build (fitting and bonding of kit) and the full build of £8000 ? cheers
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: redone355 on June 12, 2009, 01:17:39 PM
Don't know.  But the £8K isn't actually a full build.  It is just cutting, welding and bonding the kit.  You still have to do all the other stuff like fit lights, have it painted and any interior bits you want.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: nolis on June 12, 2009, 02:54:47 PM
so this means the kit for 6000 is also included in the full build thing for 8000 ?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: X-HOTT on June 12, 2009, 03:48:05 PM
O.k im lost now?  ??? On extremes website its says £6000 for the kit..on top of that the donor kebab pug.. then add £3000 for part build, thats bonding and fitting ready for paint, then i thought  for the £8000 u get the finished dreamed machine, if this is not the case i best keep saving   :'(
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: zero2sixty on June 12, 2009, 09:44:21 PM
On the website it states how much a Kit, Bonding, or Complete build will be. So the pricing is like this:

Just the kit is 6,000
If you want to build it and still have extreme help with some labor and bonding it's additional 3,000
Lets say you buy the kit and start building then decide you don't have time or something like that. Price for them to build is additional 8,000 which is the labor.
Fully built (turnkeys) are 17,500 and up.

Hope this clarifies.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: X-HOTT on June 12, 2009, 11:45:49 PM
Thanks zero2sixty  :) :) bring on the pics soon  :P
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: redone355 on June 13, 2009, 12:09:12 AM
Just to clear this up, as we have taken on another new building and new team members
we will be offering the the 430 kit fitted and bonded to the car for £8000, so yes that
does include the kit in that price  :) :)



This is true but as Damian said above, the kit bought and bonded for £8K
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: nolis on June 13, 2009, 07:00:15 AM
So what? Does somebody specifically know it, because it makes a big difference whether I pay 8000 or (6k + 8k) = 14000 for it (I mean kit and fitting outside only?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EXTREME on June 13, 2009, 09:48:01 AM
£6000 for the kit and £2000 for the fitting and bonding this is £8000. This is only an introductory offer the £2000 will be going up to £3000 soon 
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: CdRsKuLL on June 13, 2009, 10:34:22 AM
Thats an amazing offer if you ask me.. If I werent already doing 2 extreme kits I would be very tempted !!!! Dam you can pick up a donor for £1000..
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: zero2sixty on June 13, 2009, 07:38:38 PM
Send me links of donors costing 1,000. Which 2 extreme kits are you doing. And extreme dont change the price until I buy lol
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: CdRsKuLL on June 13, 2009, 07:54:24 PM
there's quite a few on autotrader .. just take your time and I'm sure something decent with poor body work will pop up :-)

What I found out with my DNA is that it doesn't really matter how much the original donor was worth.. all the dna's go for similar money, I would of thought it the same with the extreme 360's

As for which ones I'm doing... I have a smart which is 75% done, just need the cooling system sorting out (waiting on T-Piece coming) and my cables. The other ones a Murci which will be ready in a few months...... :-)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: shadowdown on June 14, 2009, 03:42:45 AM
Whats the deal with the lack of pictures on extremes site of the 430. its kinda indicating to me they must be  having some  issues with the kit. I mean whats wrong with a few youtube vids to show of this piece of art. I personal believe that there are a ton of hidden costs in building this car and correct me if im wrong but there site looks seriously dodgy!! Im a web designer and this site looks like its been created by a pure amature. Im not taking the piss im just stating the plain obvious. If your selling a high class product like you own at least have a proffesional website that fits the image. While im on the topic of their site can someone please tell why they use a picture of a real f430 instead of thier own car??? I think this is plain misleading the customer to think hes getting something he's not. Come on extreme show some sort of pics to rest my mind that the 430 looks good. The one on your site looks like its got length issues and two high a front bonnet. It could be its just a bad picture angle?? Also why on earth is your 360 and 430 a mile of the ground is the there an issue with wheel clearance that your not telling us?? Sorry to be so straight to the point but this site  is full of people who love your product and thats cool so they gona tell you what you wanna here. i want a plain straight answer. If anybody here has anything they can tell me about these above issue that would be cool. I dont need the big sell just clear answers on these subjects.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: mobius on June 14, 2009, 05:25:29 AM
Wow, you seem a little angry.  How about you step back and read your post.  Then maybe you might see how extreme may take offense at your statements.  I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt.  I will assume you are just curious.  I can answer all your questions, by asking you to look at the following picture. Compare the areas circled. As you can see the red ferrari (extreme replica) has a back seat, and the black(real ferrari) doesn't. So, you have proved that extreme's work is impeccable, all by yourself.  Congratulations :-)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: CdRsKuLL on June 14, 2009, 07:20:59 AM
The 430 kits are available NOW to buy.. The kit is complete as far as I know. There 430 demo car isnt completed yet its being painted at the mo.. As soon as it's ready they will release a ton of videos as they have done with all there products. There kit is £6000 with a special £2000 price of bonding it to your donor (great deal). They were trying to get it ready for the newark show but as its there demo it needs to be spot on and not a rush job + they have been working on 'other' cars too.

As there car has been moulded off real 430 panels it will look no different to a real 430, which I presume is why they have used a 430 picture at the moment until there demo is ready.

hope this clears up afew of your questions.. extreme are a very real uk company not a take your money and run type... they have been around for many years and will be around for many more !

O.. btw welcome to the forums. :-)

Steve
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EXTREME on June 14, 2009, 09:48:11 AM
Looks like you are a bit upset about something. I am not going into detail for people that come across to be someone that is obviously not here to purchase anything or in any way interested. Our 360/430 are the only ones that are moulded of genuine cars and have not had there kits altered to fit a donor car. This makes them the same as a genuine. You must need to take a look again at our youtube videos or check that you are not looking as some other 360/430 kit on youtube. We have shown in our youtube videos that we are not lying. If you want to see pics of our 430 then please be patient like everyone else. I have explained we are waiting for suspension and I think that’s good enough. We are not just developing 430 kits here we have a lot of other things that we are doing also. Sorry to hear you don’t like the website but I do 
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: shadowdown on June 14, 2009, 05:54:45 PM
Sorry just read my post there and it does sound very frank. No what i was trying to say is that the suspension looks a bit high to me. if you compare the two pics the black original sits lower. Im not being a dick i am just trying to state the obvious flaws. I know the car is bloody awesome but these we things put me off. To extreme i am not trying to slag your sight just some friendly advice on how to improve it. if you like I will email you with designs that you can use for free. Anyway i am going to wait like the rest of use guys for this cars reveal. If its good im buying if not then well who knows I just mite get the 360 instead. Moblus If i am right i didnt state once in my earlier post about any back seats. Suspension and bonnet but as I now know that car panels are moulded of the real deal thanks to CdRsKuLL I have no concern with that now its just suspension that i am looking out for on the extreme car. Question to CdRsKuLL when is the Newark show?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: exabyte on June 14, 2009, 05:57:36 PM
lol @ shadowdown, im a web designer too...
The website is crap, however the product is first class ive seen the 360 in person, and i couldnt tell the difference, also the 355 spot on...
Extreme are really busy they are after puttin out 2 kit cars already this year 430 and murci.. and 2 more for the newark show...
So id say welcome to the forum shadowdown, dont judge them by their site and just stick around and see the amazing stuff that they come out with
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: CdRsKuLL on June 14, 2009, 06:00:49 PM
Hi fella, the newark show is next weekend http://www.kitcarshow.co.uk/  

If your refering to the red stradale ferrari 360, then yes your quite correct in that it does ride higher than a proper 360, but that is by choice.. The guy that owned that lived in speed bump city with massive bumps all over the place.

Steve
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EXTREME on June 14, 2009, 07:05:13 PM
Sorry just read my post there and it does sound very frank. No what i was trying to say is that the suspension looks a bit high to me. if you compare the two pics the black original sits lower. Im not being a dick i am just trying to state the obvious flaws. I know the car is bloody awesome but these we things put me off. To extreme i am not trying to slag your sight just some friendly advice on how to improve it. if you like I will email you with designs that you can use for free. Anyway i am going to wait like the rest of use guys for this cars reveal. If its good im buying if not then well who knows I just mite get the 360 instead. Moblus If i am right i didnt state once in my earlier post about any back seats. Suspension and bonnet but as I now know that car panels are moulded of the real deal thanks to CdRsKuLL I have no concern with that now its just suspension that i am looking out for on the extreme car. Question to CdRsKuLL when is the Newark show?


I think we can clearly see that the site is under new development. I specifically asked for something simple so we can alter it as and when. We do not have just one product we have new ones coming out all the time. A website is for information and the more complicated they get the less someone wishes to use it. When it is finished then please make comment, I hope you understand 
The suspension on the car can be lowered to the same ride height as the genuine car if you wish; we made a mistake of using a 20 inch rim instead of the 18 inch on our 360 demonstrator, but can still just manage to bring it down to the correct ride height. I would not recommend 20s to anyone, I think the best wheel size to go for is the 19 inch. Things all depend on what sort of ride you want, if it’s a soft ride you are best setting the suspension say 1 inch higher and softening the dampers on the coilovers, if you want a firm ride the same as a genuine then drop it down to the correct height and set the dampers stiffer the same as a genuine
A 430 and 360 are high cars when it comes to comparing them with say a lambo, so the 406 coupe in my opinion is the best car to use.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: XPERT360 on June 15, 2009, 09:40:31 AM
I just did my car yesterday. With regards to the rears, Im using 19's with 35 profile. Ive set my rear shocks all the way down so the rear sits as low as it will go. OK, Its going to be hard but I feel, for me, the look outweighs the comfort. Im mostly on motorways anyway. The rear arches are huge in anycase and IMO a huge gap between the wheels and arch looks odd. Ill post a pic tonight for your opinions.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: STRDAL360 on June 15, 2009, 09:49:52 AM
there's quite a few on autotrader .. just take your time and I'm sure something decent with poor body work will pop up :-)

For those of us who do not reside in UK, what postcode should be used when one tries to do a search on the autotrader website for a donor?  :-\
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: CdRsKuLL on June 15, 2009, 10:00:53 AM
I assume if you are going to be buying one then you should choose one near the airport / ferry terminal. Just do a search on google for somewhere ie in manchester.. seach for mcdonald's postcode manchester.. :-) there's 2497 in the UK it seems.. lol
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: XPERT360 on June 15, 2009, 10:46:25 AM
you anorak Steve!
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: X-HOTT on June 15, 2009, 11:18:26 AM
I live near London Heathrow airport.. Use TW6 1EW plus it has the biggest air cargo depot in europe.. Hope this helps
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: STRDAL360 on June 15, 2009, 12:48:00 PM
I live near London Heathrow airport.. Use TW6 1EW plus it has the biggest air cargo depot in europe.. Hope this helps

Thanks for the info.

How far away is Hull where Extreme is from major ports?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Drew355 on June 15, 2009, 01:28:10 PM
Hull IS a major port!!  ;D ;D

Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: STRDAL360 on June 16, 2009, 04:35:36 AM
Hull IS a major port!!  ;D ;D



Really?!  Sweet! 

Does anyone know of any reliable export companies with genuine people?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Argus X575 on June 16, 2009, 07:11:36 AM
Hey STRDAL360 I took the liberty of scoping ugghhhhh locating Extreme on the world scene and they are literally right off the water.  You could literally walk off the boat and few turns away from there location (first one I think).  Go to google maps/earth and you will see a nice shot of their roof ;) ;) or at least what I think it is.  Not that I am a stalker of sorts......  Just one of those late nights prior to coming on the forum and doing research by the way could anyone help me understand UK as I am still trying to pinpoint the exact location.  When I put the full address in I keep getting that there is no exact match to that address as well as the pic from the website does not quite match up to Ropery-hence my need to understand UK. 

It was what I was thinking of doing as I live in Orlando and FT. Lauderdale is a quick drive [for me at least] to pick up my car.

Now if I could just get that whole Pug-donored 430 and 360 replica over here mess then, I think I will have a greater year! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: zero2sixty on June 16, 2009, 07:52:02 AM
Argus how come you won't get the mr2? It's too hard to transfer a car across the pond
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: bowser330 on June 17, 2009, 05:13:22 AM
Argus how come you won't get the mr2? It's too hard to transfer a car across the pond

true, it is very hard to transfer a car here, thats why if you have extreme modify the car's frame and ship the car without a motor/trans (since there is not maintenance and repair support for a pug drivetrain) then it really is not categorized as a "car" anymore and its basically "car-parts"...that is what I understand of the USA Gov regulations, I may be wrong.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: MC developments on June 17, 2009, 09:46:51 PM
you mean that there is a huge overhang??



If you change a cars wheel base and track it can have a dramatic affect on the cars handling, the perfect track to wheel base is that the track should be 1.6 % of the wheel base, if the percentage (raitio) rises then the car will handle better at high speeds this is how a formula 1 car is it is around 1.9%. If you make the track wider but do not lengthen the wheel base like on a lot of  body conversions out there you will cause handling problems, normal driving will not be affected but going fast round a corner will end up with the car swapping ends (spinning round) especially in the wet. This is a big problem in the body kit industry people design kits and think “ everyone else uses hub extensions so I will”  what they don’t understand is the consequences if they reduce the percentage dramatically under 1.6% they could be causing accidents, so the wheel base of a car needs to be extended for it to handle properly (engine moved back) if the percentage is higher than 1.6 to start with then its OK to use a spacer without changing the wheel base (like our pug 406 360/430)  If we didn’t extend the wheelbase on the MR2 430 and used hub extensions to bring the track wider like a lot of other kits out there it would end up with a dramatic  percentage decrease coming down to 1.46% and this is NOT safe to go fast in, only plodding around like a girl round town. If someone tries to tell you different then they need lessons on the geometry of cars and should not be in this business



A standard MR2 has a percentage of 1.63 longer been OK, bringing this down to 1.46 (by putting a 430 body on)as it would be with no engine move is asking for trouble, rear wheel drive in the wet with this percentage in my eyes is ignorance

A genuine 430 is 1.6

A genuine murci is 1.6




Is that why lotus's (elise,exige,340) are so bad handling (ratio 1.52) ?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: phoooby on June 17, 2009, 11:05:14 PM
Are those cars not quite close to 800kg being fibreglass bodied with no sterio, a/c etc ??.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Argus X575 on June 18, 2009, 04:21:58 AM
Argus how come you won't get the mr2? It's too hard to transfer a car across the pond

true, it is very hard to transfer a car here, thats why if you have extreme modify the car's frame and ship the car without a motor/trans (since there is not maintenance and repair support for a pug drivetrain) then it really is not categorized as a "car" anymore and its basically "car-parts"...that is what I understand of the USA Gov regulations, I may be wrong.
zero2sixty you are correct but I want the 406 donor due to the inside being larger (plus the rear seats) so that it would match with my idea of customizing the interior.  Bowser old pal how are you doing?  You are correct, as well, if the engine is bought from someone other than the seller of said "car-parts" then the EPA (per their site) would have no issues with that situation.  I have found a dealer that still sells and repairs Pug vehicles but prior to 406.  In any case I or we would come out cheaper placing more common motors on our side of the pond.  I am still researching, more for my own curiosity, as I would like to try and get it here w/o using a broker/agent to save money.  I am trying to have as little work done as possible in the UK as the currency exchange is getting worse for us in the US. >:(
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: scooby on June 18, 2009, 06:47:03 AM
Hey guys will you post some pictures of 430 in this year  ;D ;D ;D come on please send some....
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EXTREME on June 18, 2009, 09:24:10 AM
you mean that there is a huge overhang??



If you change a cars wheel base and track it can have a dramatic affect on the cars handling, the perfect track to wheel base is that the track should be 1.6 % of the wheel base, if the percentage (raitio) rises then the car will handle better at high speeds this is how a formula 1 car is it is around 1.9%. If you make the track wider but do not lengthen the wheel base like on a lot of  body conversions out there you will cause handling problems, normal driving will not be affected but going fast round a corner will end up with the car swapping ends (spinning round) especially in the wet. This is a big problem in the body kit industry people design kits and think “ everyone else uses hub extensions so I will”  what they don’t understand is the consequences if they reduce the percentage dramatically under 1.6% they could be causing accidents, so the wheel base of a car needs to be extended for it to handle properly (engine moved back) if the percentage is higher than 1.6 to start with then its OK to use a spacer without changing the wheel base (like our pug 406 360/430)  If we didn’t extend the wheelbase on the MR2 430 and used hub extensions to bring the track wider like a lot of other kits out there it would end up with a dramatic  percentage decrease coming down to 1.46% and this is NOT safe to go fast in, only plodding around like a girl round town. If someone tries to tell you different then they need lessons on the geometry of cars and should not be in this business



A standard MR2 has a percentage of 1.63 longer been OK, bringing this down to 1.46 (by putting a 430 body on)as it would be with no engine move is asking for trouble, rear wheel drive in the wet with this percentage in my eyes is ignorance

A genuine 430 is 1.6

A genuine murci is 1.6




Is that why lotus's (elise,exige,340) are so bad handling (ratio 1.52) ?



The lotus Elise is 1.59 and the Exige is 1.55  the 340R is 1.59 All cars are light and are fantastic handling cars but it is known that the Elise handles better in the wet. You will always get an exception but will find they are very light cars.
The biggest exception you will find is the Arial atom in the late 1.4s but the car is less than 500KG. All the info you will find on wheelbase to track ratio will state the same thing. If you go in the late 1.5s it is OK but under it will be a light car in the 800KG region the perfect ratio is 1.61 
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: BLAZE on June 25, 2009, 06:19:38 PM
Hi Extreme .I know you are very busy ,but some info about the 430 will be much appreciated .What will be the new interior ,steering wheel?
I hope the mr2 build will not be harder to complete than the pug?
And one more thing ...can u make a new sticky topic with info about the 430 kit (what's in it) and the other parts that we need to complete our projects .Thank you
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: bowser330 on June 27, 2009, 11:06:46 PM
you mean that there is a huge overhang??



If you change a cars wheel base and track it can have a dramatic affect on the cars handling, the perfect track to wheel base is that the track should be 1.6 % of the wheel base, if the percentage (raitio) rises then the car will handle better at high speeds this is how a formula 1 car is it is around 1.9%. If you make the track wider but do not lengthen the wheel base like on a lot of  body conversions out there you will cause handling problems, normal driving will not be affected but going fast round a corner will end up with the car swapping ends (spinning round) especially in the wet. This is a big problem in the body kit industry people design kits and think “ everyone else uses hub extensions so I will”  what they don’t understand is the consequences if they reduce the percentage dramatically under 1.6% they could be causing accidents, so the wheel base of a car needs to be extended for it to handle properly (engine moved back) if the percentage is higher than 1.6 to start with then its OK to use a spacer without changing the wheel base (like our pug 406 360/430)  If we didn’t extend the wheelbase on the MR2 430 and used hub extensions to bring the track wider like a lot of other kits out there it would end up with a dramatic  percentage decrease coming down to 1.46% and this is NOT safe to go fast in, only plodding around like a girl round town. If someone tries to tell you different then they need lessons on the geometry of cars and should not be in this business



A standard MR2 has a percentage of 1.63 longer been OK, bringing this down to 1.46 (by putting a 430 body on)as it would be with no engine move is asking for trouble, rear wheel drive in the wet with this percentage in my eyes is ignorance

A genuine 430 is 1.6

A genuine murci is 1.6




Is that why lotus's (elise,exige,340) are so bad handling (ratio 1.52) ?



The lotus Elise is 1.59 and the Exige is 1.55  the 340R is 1.59 All cars are light and are fantastic handling cars but it is known that the Elise handles better in the wet. You will always get an exception but will find they are very light cars.
The biggest exception you will find is the Arial atom in the late 1.4s but the car is less than 500KG. All the info you will find on wheelbase to track ratio will state the same thing. If you go in the late 1.5s it is OK but under it will be a light car in the 800KG region the perfect ratio is 1.61 


What is the weight of the 406 with the 360/430 kit completed?? (curious)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: e++ on June 29, 2009, 09:50:56 PM
any fresh news?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: janman92 on July 03, 2009, 05:07:15 PM
I WANT PICS   !!!
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: dazm1050 on July 03, 2009, 05:10:09 PM
doesnt everyone?! we was promised pre-paint pics in two weeks.. that was how long ago?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: shadowdown on July 06, 2009, 03:08:38 AM
Newark show was supposed to be the unvailing!no sign? What's going down?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: scooby on July 06, 2009, 06:08:17 AM
yess send some pictures :o :o :o
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: CdRsKuLL on July 06, 2009, 07:09:58 AM
It wasnt ready in time sadly.. I dont think it will be too long off now :-)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Lee1234 on July 06, 2009, 12:32:01 PM
Why are extreme so sketchy about their projects?  why no pictures? why apart fom the half baked prices on their site are there no prices? Why cant they show a 430?.............maybe they have not completed any builds yet but still want to sell the kits.after pm  to "extreme sales" and "extreme" i got no reply???? surely if you are wishing to sell something you would advertise and follow up leads......unless of course you are only selling the dream and am not able to show any pictures or even show a completed one.maybe you are only trying to keep up with your competitors???
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Drew355 on July 06, 2009, 12:49:08 PM
If thats what you think and you want a 430 then its your loss.
But they have shown pics of the demonstrator being built it just wasnt finished in time for the show.

Damian has been away so that could be why your pm hasnt been read on here. This site is for owners and potential owers to discuss the cars, it is not Extremes website. They ask frequently for any questions or sales enquiries to be made to the extreme e-mail or to phone them direct (both available on the Extremes own website) www.extreme-sportscars.com.

The 430 is the latest extreme kit out there, it isnt a dream and does exist. Kits have been sold and I am one of the first lucky recipients.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: topman09 on July 06, 2009, 01:00:21 PM
The 430 is the latest extreme kit out there, it isnt a dream and does exist. Kits have been sold and I am one of the first lucky recipients.

Have you finished building your kit? Any pics of the progress?

So does that mean this pic below is not actually of an extreme 430, becuase this one seems completed?...
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Drew355 on July 06, 2009, 01:12:56 PM
The kits are new...like really new!!! i.e. mine was the first one out of the final finished moulds. The demonstrator was the mule used to create the panels and is what the moulds that made my panels were created from.

The 430 KIT itself is finished and available NOW.
The 430 demonstrator build up is being finished so they have a completed car to show people.

I have a 430 rear bumper and various other smaller bits in my garage, but all my other bits including the metalwork and all my other panels are sat at the extreme workshop just waiting for me to finish my 355.   
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: CdRsKuLL on July 06, 2009, 08:32:05 PM
I would like to confirm to everyone that the 430 is being done its just taking time to get it finished. Please remember Extreme have / are completing a further 3 kits (Smart / Murci / Merc) and are also doing there production car 'the thing'

I am waiting like the rest of us to see there demo car.. but perfection just takes time !

I have decided to delete any posts that are not constructive as its just a waste of forum bandwidth.

Steve
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Argus X575 on July 07, 2009, 04:29:32 AM
Lee1234 I may be out of line here but I am in the states and I know from all that I researched (Aug '08 til present) for any signs, speakings or proof of Extreme being a fraud less keeping up with the competitors as said.  I understand a lot of people being anxious but consider much of us that has been following from long ago or recently as myself awaiting the 430 much less the process of voting on what Extreme should do next (of Extreme's asking) and we voted.  To come out due to frustration is kind of reckless.  I work with a Human Resource firm and it takes us a year and a half to get a client's benefits changed over to something new. That is just changing some verbiage, pricing, and phone numbers never mind the fact Extreme's doing some actual molding and remolding as there are some different panels.  Let's not forget the updates that makes the 430 a quicker build could possibly make the 360 easier as well.  And if any would like to throw the 'are you an owner' card out understand this is not a red card on my part but I  am willing to win the football game with a good striker (Extreme) on field.  The only negative remark I found that was verified is that Extreme is "too expensive" which ,as to date, I have seen from pics across the net of their kits and they have been said to be "world quality" and "worth the money".  In any case i have been about for a short time and I am waiting patiently as I want them to not have to send me an email and/or letter on a panel recall.  You decide.....  For my money and future plans I am giving them all the space and time they need.


BTW check on page 7 of this thread topic and you will see the demonstrator loosely fit to a 406 as well as some photoshop fun that was had with it.  Every day that passes is one day closer your 430 gets to your garage ;).  Hope you enjoy it and have a better day. :) :) :)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: snowmanappie on July 07, 2009, 08:47:26 PM
Lee1234 I may be out of line here but I am in the states and I know from all that I researched (Aug '08 til present) for any signs, speakings or proof of Extreme being a fraud less keeping up with the competitors as said.  I understand a lot of people being anxious but consider much of us that has been following from long ago or recently as myself awaiting the 430 much less the process of voting on what Extreme should do next (of Extreme's asking) and we voted.  To come out due to frustration is kind of reckless.  I work with a Human Resource firm and it takes us a year and a half to get a client's benefits changed over to something new. That is just changing some verbiage, pricing, and phone numbers never mind the fact Extreme's doing some actual molding and remolding as there are some different panels.  Let's not forget the updates that makes the 430 a quicker build could possibly make the 360 easier as well.  And if any would like to throw the 'are you an owner' card out understand this is not a red card on my part but I  am willing to win the football game with a good striker (Extreme) on field.  The only negative remark I found that was verified is that Extreme is "too expensive" which ,as to date, I have seen from pics across the net of their kits and they have been said to be "world quality" and "worth the money".  In any case i have been about for a short time and I am waiting patiently as I want them to not have to send me an email and/or letter on a panel recall.  You decide.....  For my money and future plans I am giving them all the space and time they need.


BTW check on page 7 of this thread topic and you will see the demonstrator loosely fit to a 406 as well as some photoshop fun that was had with it.  Every day that passes is one day closer your 430 gets to your garage ;).  Hope you enjoy it and have a better day. :) :) :)

Well spoken Argus, I totally agree
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Lee1234 on July 08, 2009, 03:36:01 PM
I'm not dissing extreme or trying to big anyone up.i am merely asking why all the advertising and smoke and mirror's? why not just show us a car with all the panels fixed and ready for paint? are they not this far into the project? dont get me wrong im not "bashing" them.just got questions that they wont answer but then again this will prob get removed for asking too many questions! its a lot of money to shell out.it would be nice to have a bit of confidence
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: CdRsKuLL on July 08, 2009, 04:11:52 PM
They haven't shown us a car because its not ready.. its as simple as that.. no smoke / no mirrors. its just not ready. This has been said many times.

If you have the money then you would go over to hull.. pay your money and bring home your kit.. just as you would going to any shop.. pay your money / get your stuff.

I really cant see your problem.. sorry but it seems your just coming on these forums trying to upset everyone. If you were after a picture of the 430 kit then here you go..

(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n261/extreme_011/430rep.jpg)

Again this is afew months old. Since this it panels have been moulded, re-moulded to put the return flanges on and its now being sent last I heard to the painters.

I'm sure pictures will be released very soon once there happy with there demo. If you have ever built a kit car yourself you will fully understand just how long the process takes.

Steve
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Lee1234 on July 08, 2009, 06:23:26 PM
thanks for that steve.dont know why you are so agressive though.people ask questions and would like answer's.so many sarky replies on here its unreal.i have taken the choice to not go with extreme for these reason's (and thats not because i have not got the money) and why would i go and put a deposit on something that is not completed its a lot of money afterall and why would i run up to hull with a few thousand pounds deposit when i cant even get a reply to my few emails i have sent???....stop acting as if i am in the wrong when all i have done is ask a few important and simple question's
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: CdRsKuLL on July 08, 2009, 06:37:11 PM
I'm really sorry Lee but I didnt see my post as being agressive in anyway. I took time out of my life to reply to your good self. I spent time searching back in this thread for the picture posted by extreme of there 430. Which by the way people made you aware of. Since your obviously in the know and you have made your mind up not to get an exteme kit then I wish you good luck in future adventure's which afterall might be for the best.

Steve
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: exabyte on July 08, 2009, 11:42:31 PM
I took time out of my life to reply to your good self.
LoL doesn't sound half arrogant lad!
Question do the air intakes on the dave jones kit seem really high up or is it just me?

I honestly cant wait to see the extreme Demo car, just wish the other website was updated regularly (Hint hint i'm a web designer ;) )

Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Drew355 on July 09, 2009, 12:33:25 PM
I'm not dissing extreme or trying to big anyone up.i am merely asking why all the advertising and smoke and mirror's? why not just show us a car with all the panels fixed and ready for paint? are they not this far into the project? dont get me wrong im not "bashing" them.just got questions that they wont answer but then again this will prob get removed for asking too many questions! its a lot of money to shell out.it would be nice to have a bit of confidence

It will not get removed unless you are abuse or purposefully argumentative. Questions are good.

What questions about the kit were you not getting answers to?

You are right it is a lot of money to shell out & personally not an amount of money I would hand over without seeing it in person. Hence why I have been to see extreme...many times before spending my money.

As I have said previously, the KITS are available and finished, the DEMO CAR is not. If you want to be one of the first few to have this car then go and look at the demo cars current status and make up your own mind if you think it looks right. Dont get all annoyed when extreme dont want to show pics of a half finished demo car on a public forum. Other companies have done exactly the same and shown teaser panel pics then not shown pics until the paint is on and its correctly lowered etc so if extreme want to do the same then that is up to them.

These forums work for both sides having the manufacturers posting on here, they get to give sneak previews of their kits to get people interested and potential customers in the know, but it also they allow us interested buyers to get sneak previews of what is coming up. Extreme didnt sign up to being obliged to give us the sneak previews, they will show us once it is in a state they are happy to release pics of it. They wouldnt normally show sneak previews on their own website so why should they have to on here.

I wish you luck with whatever build you end up with, but the reason you got a slightly frosty reception is that we try to keep a balance between advantages for us and advantages for the manufacturer to be here. Posts like yours accusing extreme of lieing about what they have done so far are bound to get peoples backs up.

Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Lee1234 on July 09, 2009, 12:50:48 PM
I took time out of my life to reply to your good self.
LoL doesn't sound half arrogant lad!
Question do the air intakes on the dave jones kit seem really high up or is it just me?

I honestly cant wait to see the extreme Demo car, just wish the other website was updated regularly (Hint hint i'm a web designer ;) )


you should read what you type and realise how arrogant and aggresive you sound steve......i rest my case
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: CdRsKuLL on July 09, 2009, 12:52:37 PM
thank you for your kind advice :-)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Lee1234 on July 10, 2009, 11:06:45 PM
thank you for your kind advice :-)

Your welcome
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: CdRsKuLL on July 11, 2009, 04:20:18 PM
I fully agree with you m8.. What people dont see is the post I deleted by Lee1234. Also if you have a quick read up afew other members have tried to help lee1234 as well. I moderate alot of different forums.. this one being one of the small ones to be honest.. but it takes up more time than one with 25,000 members. I will just get fed up soon and just start banning people to be honest.

so then Larry, have you got a kit yourself or are you like i was for many years in the planning stage ?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Sid09 on July 12, 2009, 10:10:43 AM
I don't get why people are getting arsey with extreme about the new stuff? Do I want to see stuff on the 430 and vanquish? Hell yes. Am i going to get bitchy if there isn't anything put up? No. Bottom line, this forum is for us to talk about extreme and their products, not for extreme to publish information and pics before they are happy to do so (if they want to).

I've lost count of the number of times i've logged on to see if there are any pics and there is nothing yet. I know it'll be better when they do actually appear, if extreme want to. If people were being that pushy with me i wouldn't do it at all, just put it on the website when i'm godd and damn well ready to.

Patience, people. They will come.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: XPERT360 on July 12, 2009, 10:29:28 PM
Guys, please remember that this site was set up for Extreme OWNERS to share experiences, build tips and passion for the Extreme cars.

EXTREME SPORTS CARS have absolutly no obligation to post on here as this site is not for them, they have their own

If someone requires info, updates on projects or wanting to know whats brewing for the up and comming months then why ask third parties on here.
PICK UP THE PONE OR EMAIL EXTREME SPORTS CARS and If you are serious with the cash, they will talk to you. Please remembr tho there are a lot of tyre kickers and gnomless kids on here that only dream and fantasise for such cars.

If youve got the cash to spend on a new car then arrange a visit and see the car your self. Besides, no one in their right mind would buy a car without seeing it first.

Ive seen the 430 in both the early days and quite recently, it does exist, so go and see it. Its the ony acurate one available but you have to wait. If you cant wait, then by a dinky toy version from another manufacturer like DNA, Enzo Designs or Dave jones. End of and its as simple as that.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: STRDAL360 on July 13, 2009, 11:46:07 AM
I wish I live in the UK so I can go and visit Extreme's workshop, see the cars and talk to Ash or Damian in person.  Sigh~~ :'(
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: GTOpower on July 13, 2009, 12:32:41 PM
I wish I live in the UK so I can go and visit Extreme's workshop, see the cars and talk to Ash or Damian in person.  Sigh~~ :'(

I would love to take a look round Extreme workshop too, I heard there is some nice toys there and if you are very very lucky you get taken for a spin in a real Murci  ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Argus X575 on July 13, 2009, 06:19:31 PM
I agree with you both!  I just would like one whole day at their workshop :o :o.  Then again knowing me I would beg for any job to support my replica/kit car habit.  Would have to take my 360/430 on the boat back to FL and rehab before I get back to the family. :)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: e++ on July 15, 2009, 10:38:58 PM
a 430 spyder would be really nice. There ain't 2 mutch difference between the coupe and the spyder just the trunk part. with a nice high reving vtec in the back. that would be the s***
(http://static.blogo.it/autoblog/ferrari-430-scuderia-spider-16m/Ferrari430ScuderiaSpider16Mofficial_004.jpg)
there's a photo to make the page look preety   :D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: BLAZE on July 15, 2009, 10:51:15 PM
"there's a photo to make the page look preety"  ;D ;D ;D A-a-a-a ,nice one !
 
But to be factual ,the car on the picture is F430 Scuderia Spider 16M  ;)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on July 17, 2009, 12:55:25 AM
a 430 spyder would be really nice. There ain't 2 mutch difference between the coupe and the spyder just the trunk part. with a nice high reving vtec in the back. that would be the s***
(http://static.blogo.it/autoblog/ferrari-430-scuderia-spider-16m/Ferrari430ScuderiaSpider16Mofficial_004.jpg)
there's a photo to make the page look preety   :D

Yeah an NSX VTEC haha. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: exabyte on July 17, 2009, 04:50:59 PM
VTEC! LOL try a V8!
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on July 18, 2009, 01:02:17 AM
VTEC! LOL try a V8!

Naah we like proformance and fuel use haha.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: shadowdown on July 18, 2009, 08:05:27 PM
So does anybody know when the 430 is gonna be ready?? Can't wait to see this machine. Is it gonna be as good as their 360??
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: bowser330 on July 18, 2009, 08:06:10 PM
a 430 spyder would be really nice. There ain't 2 mutch difference between the coupe and the spyder just the trunk part. with a nice high reving vtec in the back. that would be the s***
(http://static.blogo.it/autoblog/ferrari-430-scuderia-spider-16m/Ferrari430ScuderiaSpider16Mofficial_004.jpg)
there's a photo to make the page look preety   :D

"vtec"...to each his own....

Unless the V8 has 180 degree headers...I'll pass...Performance is only one aspect...what about the...

Sound....(F1 sound that is)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Gg6mh6j2rc

Note: The video compares a stock F-430 (3:45) vs BMW M5 with One-and-Only Exhaust...

Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: bowser330 on July 18, 2009, 08:09:16 PM
So does anybody know when the 430 is gonna be ready?? Can't wait to see this machine. Is it gonna be as good as their 360??

 With the more experience that Extreme gets by making kit after kit, I would presume the build will be easier and the parts will be just as good if not better than 360 in quality...

The build will be easier for one because the rear section is fewer pieces, as Extreme has already told us in this thread....Maybe it would be a good idea to read through it...

Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Argus X575 on July 20, 2009, 10:03:18 AM
So does anybody know when the 430 is gonna be ready?? Can't wait to see this machine. Is it gonna be as good as their 360??

 With the more experience that Extreme gets by making kit after kit, I would presume the build will be easier and the parts will be just as good if not better than 360 in quality...

The build will be easier for one because the rear section is fewer pieces, as Extreme has already told us in this thread....Maybe it would be a good idea to read through it...



Gee there's a thought.  Reading before posting.  I may try that from now on- :D :D :D :D :D :D :D  Until then I will create new posts for every question and every comment.- Seriously though we should all read through as many questions have been answered prior to any new person (like me) to the forum.  Once again this site was intended for owners and just spread.  Have a good morning all.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: blazeup on July 21, 2009, 01:16:25 AM
  Audi V10 conversion in 406 coupe rear can it be done it's the closest sound to the 430 I think! Any ideas?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: BLAZE on July 21, 2009, 04:34:36 AM
Hello and welcome,nice nickname by the way  :)
Everything is possible ,but I think it will be more expensive.You can use MR2 for the job .You can read the topic about Audi v8 and v10

http://extremeoc.co.uk/index.php/topic,382.0.html

The audi v8 + real ferrari 360 box will be enough I guess
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: bowser330 on July 21, 2009, 06:13:51 AM
  Audi V10 conversion in 406 coupe rear can it be done it's the closest sound to the 430 I think! Any ideas?

$$$$$ FWD to RWD (mid engine) conversion
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: aak1203 on July 21, 2009, 09:39:58 AM
Somehow installing the v6 from the front into the back would make this the ultimate 360 rep as the only downside to this rep is the engine in the front. God knows how much it would cost with the amount of labour involved and even if extreme would want to go down that route.

With the engine in the back you could then somehow fit a genuine 360 rocker cover over the top to hid it just like i seen someone on you tube do with a lambo murc in the states.

Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: GTOpower on July 21, 2009, 11:16:09 AM
Somehow installing the v6 from the front into the back would make this the ultimate 360 rep as the only downside to this rep is the engine in the front. God knows how much it would cost with the amount of labour involved and even if extreme would want to go down that route.

With the engine in the back you could then somehow fit a genuine 360 rocker cover over the top to hid it just like i seen someone on you tube do with a lambo murc in the states.



I have thought about doing this conversion and when I asked Ashley about it he said it could cost about £500 to do it yourself, most of the price will be in fabricating the subframe. To change gears you could use a paddle system with electric servos.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: MC developments on July 21, 2009, 11:50:10 AM
or you could use a cable linkage from a golf or an MR2
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: e++ on July 21, 2009, 01:31:52 PM
they made a rear engine rwd saxo, so i guess that could be done to the pug
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: blazeup on July 21, 2009, 01:43:35 PM
Sorry BLAZE didn't realize!! ;D ;D sounds all good!! But are you saying it has to be done with an mr2 or it can actually be done with the 406! I've purchased the 406 so I'm kinda stuck there. Just saving up da rest for my 430 kit should be about a month. Has it ever been done and has anybody built a 430 yet would love to see some pics so I can get some ideas!! For my build!! Sweet site by da way!! All very informative!! Cheers guys!
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: blazeup on July 21, 2009, 02:12:40 PM
Just found the vid on YouTube some guy has converted a 205 GTI to a rwd MI 16v. I'm thinking now it can actually be done seeing this. Mi16v is quite a big engine and the pug is quite a small car. Trust me I know used to own one. Would the audi v10 fit and what about drive linkages and stuff? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4Ndv1D2Ez8
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: MC developments on July 21, 2009, 02:23:11 PM
If I can fit a V8 into a standard MR2 roadster, it should be no problem for you to do a 406, not sure about a v10, you'll need research and find out the dimensions of both to check first. Same with drivetrain it'd be a leap of faith.
But if you never try, you'll never know !
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: GTOpower on July 21, 2009, 02:30:15 PM
I heard that someone was doing an Audi V8 conversion on the Pug406 using engine from the A8, dont know if this ever happened though. You can pick up a damaged car for £1,500, theres a couple on ebay at the moment.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: blazeup on July 21, 2009, 02:31:06 PM
Im gonna do some more research but I think your rite it's gonna be a leap of faith but were there's a will there's a way!! I'll get back to Yaz once I find anything. I think if it does work it's gonna be the ultimate conversion for my the 430 build as I think I can tune the engine with different mods to give it that authentic sound and with the perfect exhaust! Well I can only imagine ;D ;D ;D ;D Sweeeeet
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: XPERT360 on July 21, 2009, 03:38:17 PM
found these. may be of interest to someone. A bit 430 ish??

http://stxstyling.co.uk/StxStyling/Cars/showit.php?pnum=7733

 ;)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: GTOpower on July 21, 2009, 04:07:56 PM
found these. may be of interest to someone. A bit 430 ish??

http://stxstyling.co.uk/StxStyling/Cars/showit.php?pnum=7733

 ;)

Look similar to the Murci seats too.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: XPERT360 on July 21, 2009, 06:54:51 PM
similar to Murci seats may be....

http://www.stxstyling.co.uk/StxStyling/Cars/showit.php?pnum=7581
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: exabyte on July 22, 2009, 01:11:33 AM
eh? they look nothin like 430 seats?

these are 430 seats!
(http://i.pbase.com/g6/42/429142/2/83620391.TlKvhqyc.jpg)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: blazeup on July 22, 2009, 02:42:59 AM
sweet seats!! But look to much like lambo seats! but still nice! Does anybody know where I can pic up any interior stuff like dash and steering wheel? Is there anybody doing replica interiors for the 430 any help would be much help! Cheers I seen the wheels one of you guys posted and I think they are the closest yet! and £100 per wheel!! thats dead cheap! Bargin  :o :o :o
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: redone355 on July 22, 2009, 12:45:04 PM
sweet seats!! But look to much like lambo seats! but still nice! Does anybody know where I can pic up any interior stuff like dash and steering wheel? Is there anybody doing replica interiors for the 430 any help would be much help! Cheers I seen the wheels one of you guys posted and I think they are the closest yet! and £100 per wheel!! thats dead cheap! Bargin  :o :o :o

They're often advertised on flea bay
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: e++ on July 22, 2009, 09:00:06 PM
What yall think about it?
(http://ndumisolindi.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/calavera-4-600x431.jpg)
(http://ndumisolindi.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/calavera-5-600x431.jpg)
(http://ndumisolindi.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/calavera-6-600x431.jpg)
(http://ndumisolindi.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/calavera-8-600x431.jpg)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: STRDAL360 on July 22, 2009, 11:26:43 PM
sweet seats!! But look to much like lambo seats! but still nice! Does anybody know where I can pic up any interior stuff like dash and steering wheel? Is there anybody doing replica interiors for the 430 any help would be much help! Cheers

Rumour says Extreme is moulding the vents, but no words on the steering wheel (neither denied or confirmed by Extreme).

I saw a genuine F430 central vent in carbon fibre a few months ago on eBay, starting bid at $300USD or something, auction finished without any bids, never seen it again on eBay since.  They are very few and far in between.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: BLAZE on July 22, 2009, 11:46:25 PM
If there are enough people ready to pay for the interior,Extreme will do it.

To me the interior is very important,so I am ready to pay for it ...Just can't imagine Ferrari f430 with the 406 oldschool interior ...
I hope extreme are making a good interior for their demonstrator + good replica steering wheel (a must for the f430) ....
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Drew355 on July 23, 2009, 12:52:24 PM


Rumour says Extreme is moulding the vents, but no words on the steering wheel (neither denied or confirmed by Extreme).

I saw a genuine F430 central vent in carbon fibre a few months ago on eBay, starting bid at $300USD or something, auction finished without any bids, never seen it again on eBay since.  They are very few and far in between.


Not just rumour, they are moulding the central vents, heater control cover and both side vents. They are mine & are at their workshop now. I got lucky and bought them off Ebay & imported them from the US all for about £200.
The genuine ball vent parts can be used or I plan on using old type mini vents. They look the same but have 4 spokes instead of 5. Just need a bit of trimming to fit & shouldnt cost more than £15 for all of them.

Dont think there is any plans on the wheel yet (Or I havent seen anything when I have been at the workshop)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Lee1234 on July 23, 2009, 01:05:04 PM
What yall think about it?
(http://ndumisolindi.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/calavera-4-600x431.jpg)
(http://ndumisolindi.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/calavera-5-600x431.jpg)
(http://ndumisolindi.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/calavera-6-600x431.jpg)
(http://ndumisolindi.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/calavera-8-600x431.jpg)
Is that a real 430?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: exabyte on July 23, 2009, 02:01:00 PM
yeah its real and they ruined it :(
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: BLAZE on July 23, 2009, 02:30:11 PM
707 bhp ....not bad ...but all that paintings  :D
Tu Nero looks better !
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: XPERT360 on July 23, 2009, 02:47:08 PM
WOW. I like the lights right down by the splitters that are frenched in. This gives me an idea ::) ::) ::)

also I like the skull and roses on the rear quarter side view. NOT KEEN on the other scrolls tho. NICE SHOW CAR.

Have you the link for the pics?????????????????
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: e++ on July 23, 2009, 08:38:49 PM
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/05/17/racing-skull-ferrari-f430-calavera-by-unique-sportscars-and-nov/
you can find here all the pics
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Lee1234 on July 27, 2009, 10:42:27 AM
does anyone know if the F430 on the mr2 is ready yet?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on July 27, 2009, 05:12:24 PM
What about some under construction pictures. In may they sad that we had to wait 2 weeks for some pictures,
and now we are almost in August and I think we earned some Under Constructions pictures hahaha.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: MC developments on July 28, 2009, 10:40:45 AM
No, Its on the mk2 if or when it comes out
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: stevewushu on July 29, 2009, 12:19:04 AM
MRII bugger, will be too hard to relicense here in Japan.

Well Extremes F430 is out!

OUT????

hahaha! it's not even IN yet!
 ::)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on August 08, 2009, 10:24:41 AM
How do you like these haha.

(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s319/kunfumunky/Ferrari-F430-GTC_1.jpg)
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s319/kunfumunky/29290400018_large.jpg)
Really like those rims.
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s319/kunfumunky/33010010215_large.jpg)
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s319/kunfumunky/33010010216_large.jpg)
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s319/kunfumunky/33010010663_large.jpg)
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s319/kunfumunky/33010010665_large.jpg)
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s319/kunfumunky/asi_ferrari_f430_1.jpg)
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s319/kunfumunky/asi_scuderia_02.jpg)
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s319/kunfumunky/asi_scuderia_04.jpg)
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s319/kunfumunky/CIMG7666.jpg)
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s319/kunfumunky/ferrari_430_race_cars_at_mid_ohio_6.jpg)

Greetz Munky  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: abielbjr on August 11, 2009, 11:02:02 PM
I agree with you! The newer model is easier to obtain than the older mr2. Since the new Cash for Clunker policy in the U.S many MR 2's were trading in for economical cars. So its making them harder to get! I got the money for a finished car,when they have a turnkey out. I just hope its in the U.S from the Canada Extreme shop or the U.S shop.

Sorry too many pages to read through so I will just ask.

What MR2 will this be on ..

The MK II
(http://the-car-club.co.uk/Images/Pictures/Toyota-MR2-MkII-Modified-%5BDonny-Show-2006%5D-400.jpg)

or

The MK III
(http://www.infoideas.net/mr2s/pp-mr2-mk3-1.jpg)


I am not interested in the F430 but the wife just seen DNA's 430 this morning and wants to sell her Lexus GS to buy one, but if Extreme's 430 is on the MKIII and Turnkey then I will look at grabbing that for the boss
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: bowser330 on August 31, 2009, 12:01:20 AM
19 days since the last post...im bumping this to the top in the hopes we get an update of some kind...even just a post from Extreme with some words of encouragement like "hang in there team, its on its way"
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: zero2sixty on August 31, 2009, 05:44:27 AM
19 days since the last post...im bumping this to the top in the hopes we get an update of some kind...even just a post from Extreme with some words of encouragement like "hang in there team, its on its way"

same thing i was thinking too. Any words would be great to hear.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: aak1203 on August 31, 2009, 09:21:29 PM
i agree with you both, any update would be great even to say what stage they are at.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: janman92 on September 13, 2009, 02:41:42 PM
C'mom
2 months ago you said it will take only 2 weeks untill it will be finished.
whats going on???

janman92
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on September 14, 2009, 04:49:33 PM
C'mom
2 months ago you said it will take only 2 weeks untill it will be finished.
whats going on???

janman92

Well some pictures would be fantastic.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: MR.T on September 17, 2009, 07:52:51 PM
I just signed on to this forum so im completely fresh to this but after i reading the whole 26 page threads of this topic i really do have faith in extreme i was going to get a dna 430 but after some serious reading im going to hold out on extreme.

patience is a virtue and im sure the results are going to be typical extreme style.  8)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: X-HOTT on September 23, 2009, 03:41:59 PM
O.k as were all still waiting for the pics.. I couldn't stop myself looking at extremes site.. Just wondering if the red 430 on their website is made by them..? or is it the real deal.. If you look closely to the windscreen its not curved like the genuine one  :P  So if this is done by them can't they just post more pics of this car..  :-\
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: janman92 on September 23, 2009, 08:30:13 PM
no
it's definetly a real.

 
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Drew355 on September 23, 2009, 08:48:06 PM
Nope its not a real one.......but then its not 100% extreme either... ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: X-HOTT on September 23, 2009, 10:22:50 PM
Janman92.. How do know mate? if u look closely i think i can see 4 seats  ; ??? Drew355.. You've confused me even more..  :-\ :-\ is this car that is staring in our screens something from extreme area 51 or something  :P im thinking maybe its extremes.. What does everyone else think?.. Yes its extremes or a No its a real deal.  :o
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: keithybhoy on September 24, 2009, 12:17:53 AM
ive just read the whole 26 pages of this thread and my eyes are hurting  ::), im in the planing stage just now sorting out a build space and getting my wedding out the way. this is what ive learned so far. I want 2 base my car on the mk2 mr2 turbo but cant decide on the car to build :-\
the big deciders for me will be what model looks the best,how close a copy i can get the dash to look like the real thing as i think this is just as important as the outside on a replica and if the brakes can be made to look as close to the real thing as possible. So the jury is out untill all these boxes are ticked. I think extremes cars are minted but i just cant decide on what model to build argh >:(
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: krispoppleton on September 24, 2009, 12:21:27 AM
The SW20 is a Mk2 MR2 (coupe) not a roadster although we are doing a spyder 430on the MK2 as well but this wont be ready until March 09

Blimey !!!

Just been reading through the posts again, trying to keep excited and I totally missed this one.

I went to Stafford at the weekend and saw DNA's 430, don't get me wrong I know it isn't perfect, but a spider looks awesome.
Even though it has it's compromises, the DNA with the hood down looked breath-taking.

At the moment I would just be happy for an official release of the 430 coupe, but if they eventually do a spider, Wow that is sure to top it.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: BO55ROX on October 16, 2009, 05:23:06 AM
Hello any one home. its been like a decade no pictures no posts no nothing. come on every one lets jump start this thread. come on extreme give us something any thing big small tiny any thing. to all at extreme all the owners all the administrators any body PLEASE GIVE US SOMETHING >:( 
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on October 16, 2009, 11:16:23 AM
I would like to see some pictures as well, I already heard that it was painted. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Drew355 on October 16, 2009, 01:25:52 PM
My 430 is on hold till the murci is done so I havent been pestering to see the car. If we get any pics I will post them here, but no updates yet....sorry.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: stevewushu on October 16, 2009, 06:18:31 PM
....turning into a vanquish thread... ::)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: keithybhoy on October 17, 2009, 12:26:21 PM
there goes some tumbleweed :(
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Argus X575 on October 28, 2009, 05:19:49 PM
While we are waiting on updated pictures of the Extreme 430 demonstrator, I have a question for anyone on the forum who could help.  It is well known that the Pug will have issues getting over here (States) but as usual I am always looking for alternatives such as using an other donor a '98/'99 Volvo C70.  Here are the numbers and for those of us over here we can look it up but I will provide the numbers using the Metric system:


                  406              430              C70

WB          2700.02        2600.96         2664.46
LN           4615.18        4511.04         4716.78
WD          1780.54        1922.78         1816.10
HT           1351.82        1214.12         1414.78
TF            1508.76        1668.78         1518.92
TR            1518.92        1615.44         1518.92


The most important of the data being the brightest and the maroon showing what would be secondary as this is going to inform how many mm or inches of spacers you would have to purchase.  My biggest concern will be the windshield.  The Volvo (as in the link below) is a 1999 C70 (for US) and does have a wide windscreen than the 406 from comparison using different sites/pictures.  I was wondering if any of you knowledgeable Gents could "steer me right" as far as that being an issue that would be more more work than necessary.  Keep in mind I have learned a lot from you all and have very little experience in  this field.  Thanks and will be looking forward to your replies.



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/99-TURBO-COUPE-PREMIUM_W0QQitemZ200365208593QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item2ea6b27411#ht_2867wt_820
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Drew355 on October 29, 2009, 03:50:23 PM
Other things to consider are the distance between the side windows, width at B pillar, height of the engine, how far back the engine is in the chassis, spacer sizes at the front so as not to affect the steering too much, structure of the car before you cut into the roof (Pug 406 coupe is a triple sill design & very strong), ability for the car to be lowered (spring seat and shock design), driveshaft angles once lowered. Those are just the ones off the top of my head. Starting with the extreme panels and putting them on a car available to you is definitley possible, but I wouldnt really consider the panels a kit in this case, more of an outer shell that you would need to modify considerably (i.e. panels returns and fixings etc) to get it to fit.
If you have done kits before & are experienced in fibreglassing and mould making - go for it!
If not, it is highly likely to end in you selling the parts on.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: juliano23 on October 29, 2009, 08:44:52 PM
I am new to the forum, but I'm looking for a company to make a replica.in america, you have several and even some that are replicas of other cars, as ferrai enzo, fxx, Pagani Zonda and Bugatti Veyron.
I wonder why the extreme does not make a replica of the Enzo or Veyron.
I am designing an enzo with 2 engines vw w12 6.0, with an exchange in the same style bugatti veyron.
this project is for the Enzo, but as no company producing a kit ferrari.
someone here know of any company in England that has the enzo kit car?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Argus X575 on October 30, 2009, 03:32:47 AM
Thank you, once again, Drew355 you have set my mind on the course of enlightment and that course of action is more ( :o) involved than I thought I had in mind.  Will definitely stick with the 406 here in the States plan.  I do not have all the info together it is still a lot more calls to make but for sure I know just getting the body over here is possible; it is just the formalities of getting it "legally" on the road is the issue. :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\

Hey juliano23 welcome to the forum.  The Enzo and Bugatti are not something quite pressing for Extreme as they also look at the "reality-factor" of the kit development and sales.  The biggest would be if seen driving either one down the road most will automatically think body kit or replica (depending on the company that makes it) and that is just not practical as they are far exceeding the title of "High Dollar Exotics."  So for the lower level {if one can get away with saying that} Exotic Cars it is possible to see these "uncommon" common cars tooling around the roadways from time to time.  To be honest most on this forum are quite modest; meaning the replica will be used leisurely but there are those who will drive it to the store across town to get a stick of gum.  Do what you will with your replica but I think as a replica of an Exotic Car it should be appreciated along the same lines though it is not.  I myself live for the casual ride at 8pm to 10pm on the open highways once a week.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: MC developments on October 30, 2009, 12:18:49 PM
Juliano,
Google mad mechanics , theresa guy on there based in the USA selling the enzo kit, some come up in ebay as well
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: juliano23 on October 30, 2009, 05:22:37 PM
I do not live in England but I'm watching the KIT CARS OF THE WHOLE WORLD, AND I AM EVALUATING THE QUALITY.
AMERICA IS IN 10 MIL COMPANIES, BUT THEY ALWAYS HAVE ANY OTHER DETAILS OR TO MAKE A REPLICA get ugly.
HAVE 2 OR 3 IN AMERICA THAT HAS A GOOD QUALITY, BUT THE QUALITY OF THE EXTREME KIT is EXCELLENT!
JUST DO NOT HAVE INFORMATION OF THE INTERIOR, FOR THE SAME WAS NOT SHOWN anywhere (that I'm finding).
  Do you know what, OR HAVE PICTURES TO SHOW?
I WANT TO RIDE MY OWN CAR, THEN HOW WOULD THE VALUE OF CAR KIT FULL RIDE FOR U.S., OR THE MURCIELAGO F430?
TO BE MOUNTED ON A TOYOTA MR2?
I have other queries, CAN BE MOUNTED ON A 1984 TOYOTA MR2? HOW MUCH IS THE VALUE OF PRODUCE IT?
THANK YOU FOR HELP.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: MC developments on October 30, 2009, 06:40:14 PM
stop shouting
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: janman92 on November 24, 2009, 09:12:24 PM
Hi
ifound a finished dna 430 convertible
and i just have to say that it looks awesome
thats the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BghVzezQUV8

http://www.dnaautomotive.net/


stay tuned janman92
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Argus X575 on November 25, 2009, 05:52:02 AM
 :( :( :( :( Guess we may not see the completed 430 until mid next year at or slightly before the Newark Kit car show.  The link is below in case you wanted to read the few sentences mention ing them.

Excerpt: This years we have a definite Italian feel in the main exhibition hall, enhanced by two Manufacturers new to Newark with their Ferrari and Lamborghini Replicas. DNA Automotive with their Toyota MR2 Super Car Kits and Extreme Sportscars with their stunning authentic replica sport cars. Look out for the replica Mercedes CLK DTM AMG based on the 2003 German Touring Car championship-winning CLK, like the one owned by Wayne Rooney. See if you can spot the difference between a genuine Lamborghini Murcielago and a Replica. We will have the real thing and the replica nose to nose at the show we are guessing you will not be able to tell which is the genuine one. The replica is based on Toyota MR2 Mk2. Making it’s show and public debut is the Extreme 430 and also don’t miss their exo-car based inspired by the Ariel Atom.


http://www.kitcarshow.co.uk/
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: HAR888 on November 25, 2009, 10:18:38 PM
hmmm...just my .02 cents...but why do we have to see extreme's demo-car?? The kit is available already, right? It is just their demo car that is not finished due to all their other projects. The 430 is an upgraded/facelifted 360..and we know the quality and accuracy of extreme's 360...so what we will see is...again a car that is almost impossible to distinguish from the real deal. They use the peugeot again, they used the OEM panels and so on...so there won't be any surprises. Right? We have seen pics of all the panels...they are available...and maybe if someone is quick he might have his car done before extreme has his demo done.
I have seen the 360 demo, Paul's Stradale and one other extreme 360 and they all looked fantastic. And I have seen all the 430 panels (fitted ) before it went in for paint ... and it all looked fantastic to me.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: zero2sixty on November 26, 2009, 07:06:50 AM
HAR888 You are correct. But for those who live across the pond I guess they want to see pics and vids. To me honestly it doesn't matter. I'm still waiting for the MR2 x430 to be released. I'll be first in line for that one  8)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Drew355 on November 26, 2009, 11:08:17 AM
hmmm...just my .02 cents...but why do we have to see extreme's demo-car?? The kit is available already, right? It is just their demo car that is not finished due to all their other projects. The 430 is an upgraded/facelifted 360..and we know the quality and accuracy of extreme's 360...so what we will see is...again a car that is almost impossible to distinguish from the real deal. They use the peugeot again, they used the OEM panels and so on...so there won't be any surprises. Right? We have seen pics of all the panels...they are available...and maybe if someone is quick he might have his car done before extreme has his demo done.
I have seen the 360 demo, Paul's Stradale and one other extreme 360 and they all looked fantastic. And I have seen all the 430 panels (fitted ) before it went in for paint ... and it all looked fantastic to me.

Couldnt have put it better myself. There WILL be customer produced cars finished before the extreme demo car, mine was supposed to be one of them, but the lure of the lambo has put a stop on that one!!!
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Shadowlands on November 27, 2009, 02:30:49 AM
Sorry guys just seen DNA stuff there and they are killing you guys. Quality. Of work and website. Every designer knows he are she is only as good as there last project. Well extreme the 360 was the bench mark but it's now yesterdays news. Way too long on development of the 430. Would have been nice to see it before my 90th birthday. Good luck with that mythical 430 build.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: GTOpower on November 27, 2009, 09:38:37 AM
Sorry guys just seen DNA stuff there and they are killing you guys. Quality. Of work and website. Every designer knows he are she is only as good as there last project. Well extreme the 360 was the bench mark but it's now yesterdays news. Way too long on development of the 430. Would have been nice to see it before my 90th birthday. Good luck with that mythical 430 build.

DNA is probably working on the Ferrari 458 at this rate  ::) they must also provide a secret Murci that we dont know about???? but seriously the Extreme 430 is a reality and if you want one you should contact Extreme and make an order.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Drew355 on November 27, 2009, 11:23:37 AM
Sorry guys just seen DNA stuff there and they are killing you guys. Quality. Of work and website. Every designer knows he are she is only as good as there last project. Well extreme the 360 was the bench mark but it's now yesterdays news. Way too long on development of the 430. Would have been nice to see it before my 90th birthday. Good luck with that mythical 430 build.

Does make me wonder why people bother to register on the EXTREME owners club website, then state that they think what extreme are doing is "yesterdays news" and that DNA is "killing you guys"

Since we are not extreme, but an owners club (and BTW the DNA owners club website and this website are both owned run by and started by cdrskull) the website comment is a bit puzzling.

I am guessing that alzheimer's or dementure is obviously setting in now you are 90 and a half as the Extreme 430 has been available to buy for about the last 6 months.

Just so you know I think the DNA 430 is a well finished and professional looking car, it doesnt look as good as a hard top & although impressive I actually think their 360 suits the mods to the design they had to make to get it to fit the MR2 better.

As for dragging their heels and being left behind by DNA, I would wait till you see their 'thing' perform & as GTO said, DNA did 360 then 430, Extreme have done 360 then Murci (and inbetween done the 430, Mercedes DTM, 'thing', Porsche, mid busa engined mini and busa powered smart car)

Not exactly dragging their heels & quite a few extra benchmarks set I think!

This is for discussion of the Extreme 430, if you wish to comment on the DNA 430 feel free to start a topic in the 'other kitcar chat' section of the forum.

Forgive me if I dont welcome you to the forum as I would normally do to newbies, but I get the feeling you are not and never intend on being an owner. Read the banner at the top and work out if maybe you are in the right place.
I am all for everyone having thier opinion, but any more none constructive posts and you will be banned.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EXTREME on November 27, 2009, 11:24:53 AM
part build available

(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n261/extreme_011/ferrari4301-1.jpg)

(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n261/extreme_011/ferrari4302.jpg)

(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n261/extreme_011/ferrari430kit.jpg)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: exabyte on November 27, 2009, 11:55:07 AM
Looks amazing, is it available part built on mr2?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: HAR888 on November 27, 2009, 04:34:16 PM
Sorry guys just seen DNA stuff there and they are killing you guys. Quality. Of work and website. Every designer knows he are she is only as good as there last project. Well extreme the 360 was the bench mark but it's now yesterdays news. Way too long on development of the 430. Would have been nice to see it before my 90th birthday. Good luck with that mythical 430 build.

seems you don't get it...THE 430 KIT IS AVAILABLE for a while now! It is just extreme's own demonstrator car that is not done yet...
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Shadowlands on November 27, 2009, 04:59:08 PM
looks nice but after all this time there is not single picture if a full build why? I want to purchase this kit but until I see the finished version no can do!
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: HAR888 on November 27, 2009, 05:25:28 PM
looks nice but after all this time there is not single picture if a full build why? I want to purchase this kit but until I see the finished version no can do!

u really don't get it, do you??? BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO BUSY WITH ALL THEIR PROJECTS! They did the Murci, then the Porsche, then the DTM, are working on their amazing "THING" car...and do the 430...
If you want to see a pic of the 430...look at the extreme website. That's exactly how it will look like. It is the Peugeot based one..look at the windshield. If that's not enough for you...then just wait for extreme to have their demo done (I really expect you to go there and visit them...sure enough a picture is not enough for you) and stop complaining here.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on November 27, 2009, 07:45:31 PM
Wow Extreme that really looks fantastic, can't wait to see the hole car finished. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Beach on November 27, 2009, 08:48:20 PM
hello guys,

I'm really an intersted buyer. I have my donorcar allready bought (Left hand drive pug coup 3.0 V6 with only 20000 miles!)

I wanted to order the 430 (and even had an apointment for delivery) but got actually scared. Due to the harch communication with extreme and no finished car seems to exist...

the kit is available. but i've you haven't seen it completely ready from anyone. probably I'll have a lot of surprises.
Maybe surprises that take much effort to solve .Certainly if the company who sells the kit never finished the Kit itself.
 

I'm just wondering what I'll do. extreme doesn't answer when I can come to see the FINISHED democar...
Maybe I sell the donor, maybe I make the 360 or wait a while for the 430....

anyone interested in the donor, you can allways PM me....

greetz,

Bart (Belgium),
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: HAR888 on November 27, 2009, 09:23:48 PM
hello guys,

I'm really an intersted buyer. I have my donorcar allready bought (Left hand drive pug coup 3.0 V6 with only 20000 miles!)

I wanted to order the 430 (and even had an apointment for delivery) but got actually scared. Due to the harch communication with extreme and no finished car seems to exist...

the kit is available. but i've you haven't seen it completely ready from anyone. probably I'll have a lot of surprises.
Maybe surprises that take much effort to solve .Certainly if the company who sells the kit never finished the Kit itself.
 

I'm just wondering what I'll do. extreme doesn't answer when I can come to see the FINISHED democar...
Maybe I sell the donor, maybe I make the 360 or wait a while for the 430....

anyone interested in the donor, you can allways PM me....

greetz,

Bart (Belgium),

Hi
if I were you..I think I would go there next week or so. Now is a great time to see the "almost finished" car..which will still allow you to see how it is fitted, what work needs to be done and so on. You will also see all the panels and what comes with the kit. If you are in Belgium it is not that far away!
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on November 27, 2009, 09:24:29 PM
hello guys,

I'm really an intersted buyer. I have my donorcar allready bought (Left hand drive pug coup 3.0 V6 with only 20000 miles!)

I wanted to order the 430 (and even had an apointment for delivery) but got actually scared. Due to the harch communication with extreme and no finished car seems to exist...

the kit is available. but i've you haven't seen it completely ready from anyone. probably I'll have a lot of surprises.
Maybe surprises that take much effort to solve .Certainly if the company who sells the kit never finished the Kit itself.
 

I'm just wondering what I'll do. extreme doesn't answer when I can come to see the FINISHED democar...
Maybe I sell the donor, maybe I make the 360 or wait a while for the 430....

anyone interested in the donor, you can allways PM me....

greetz,

Bart (Belgium),

Come on men, don't be so dramatic. You have seen pictures now from a painted 430, how long can it take for them to
finish the car now. You have seen there quality, and probably the only reason why this project is not finished apart from
the other projects is: that this is a "do it your self kitcar" and the other projects are all Extreme made projects. It takes
a lot of time to make a good video manual, and that is probably one of the reasons this project is not 100% finished. But
is already for sale. ;D ;D ;D

Ps. With 100% I mean the manual, the kit is already finished for a few months.  
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: diesel on November 27, 2009, 09:53:09 PM
Greetings to all. Excuse for my bad English.
EXTREME in my opinion strongly teases the clients. Probably certainly that at them turn on complete sets for 2 years forward and they not to rise in price clients. But I am very upset - they do not answer letters. There is no information. I understand that probably they receive many letters with empty curiosity - but how to be to real clients?

There can be who or share the information.

I have read all 28 pages of this branch of a forum. But answers are not present. I have understood that DEMO is not ready - but as has understood under the description that there are no doubts that EXTREME will make an excellent copy. I am ready to buy the complete set and to start to build the car (already tomorrow purchase DONOR406)
But I cannot understand that enters in KIT for 6000 and what I should buy in addition separately - who or knows it? I do not have construction experience - but I have agreed with the master - have shown it the report as made 360 - he has told that can make this all. But it is necessary to have what that description as it to make.

Will return to a question that goes in the complete set.
Fixture designs are or it is necessary to make? If to make that on what sizes? Where to find this information? FRONT and REAR light goes in the complete set or not?

Who bought the complete set - tell please that it is necessary to add to the complete set for 6000 and DONOR. Clearly that it is wheels and Tyres - but besides - where to learn the size ET PCD and other?

I have already gone mad. I think many here if burn idea that cannot simply wait - it is necessary to work. But such situation as though has rested against a wall. I called today EXTREME - but unfortunately I badly know English language. Has asked to answer with the letter - but do not answer. Very sadly
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Shadowlands on November 28, 2009, 01:42:18 AM
I really want to buy the kit but some pics if the finised car it maybey a bid would settle my mind. I bought my coupe lady year but still waiting! You can't seriously start to believe people will buy without seeing the finised project. Please extreme show me this car so I dan start my build. Sorry I'm a perfectionist and nothing but perfection will do!.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: HAR888 on November 28, 2009, 09:08:32 AM
Greetings to all. Excuse for my bad English.
EXTREME in my opinion strongly teases the clients. Probably certainly that at them turn on complete sets for 2 years forward and they not to rise in price clients. But I am very upset - they do not answer letters. There is no information. I understand that probably they receive many letters with empty curiosity - but how to be to real clients?

There can be who or share the information.

I have read all 28 pages of this branch of a forum. But answers are not present. I have understood that DEMO is not ready - but as has understood under the description that there are no doubts that EXTREME will make an excellent copy. I am ready to buy the complete set and to start to build the car (already tomorrow purchase DONOR406)
But I cannot understand that enters in KIT for 6000 and what I should buy in addition separately - who or knows it? I do not have construction experience - but I have agreed with the master - have shown it the report as made 360 - he has told that can make this all. But it is necessary to have what that description as it to make.

Will return to a question that goes in the complete set.
Fixture designs are or it is necessary to make? If to make that on what sizes? Where to find this information? FRONT and REAR light goes in the complete set or not?

Who bought the complete set - tell please that it is necessary to add to the complete set for 6000 and DONOR. Clearly that it is wheels and Tyres - but besides - where to learn the size ET PCD and other?

I have already gone mad. I think many here if burn idea that cannot simply wait - it is necessary to work. But such situation as though has rested against a wall. I called today EXTREME - but unfortunately I badly know English language. Has asked to answer with the letter - but do not answer. Very sadly

where are you from? extreme has some representatives in other countries...maybe someone who speaks your language?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EXTREME on November 28, 2009, 02:23:08 PM
I am sorry that people are unhappy that we have been taking a wile to get pics of the 430
There are several reasons,the main one been customers wanting part built 430s doing and we just haven't had the time to finish our demo car, I am sure people do not want us to turn customers away.The red car is also a customers part build but will have better pics next week of this car. our demo car is white and hopefully I should have pics of that one along with two others in the next couple of weeks.
The other reason for it taking longer is we don't just supply a kit and say get on with it, we go into depth to save the customer money and hassle in the build.
Lets take the headlights for instance. We needed to produce a light that could be adjusted and completely sealed to stop any moisture getting in, the majority of kits suffer with this (they will not tell you this but they do)  we needed to solve the problem. We also needed to produce a light that had high and low beam in the same unit. It is easy for kit manufacturers to say go and purchase a light to take the bi xenon light out of ,but these lights are expensive and even when you have them you would need to make them adjustable. We set out to make the perfect light cheaply for the customer instead of saying just bond a light to the back and hope it is pointed in the right direction for your MOT and hope it doesn't let water in.
As people will know we go into depth when designing a kit, we do in-depth build DVDs as people will tell you that are building our murcis. The build DVDs just get better and better, customers are now saying they are a little to long and don't need to be so informative, but surly that is a good thing.
Here are a few pics of the light we have designed, the shells are moulded of the genuine light, there is a pic of the genuine VALIO internal unit you will find in the genuine car also a HELLA unit they sometimes install in them, both are bi xenon with the flap hinging inside the unit to allow a highbeem.
You will also see our light that is a £10 standard Hella unit just high or low beam converted into a bi halogen or xenon depending on the bulb of your choice. It may look simple to design but I can assure you it is not but very simple for the customer to build. How many kit designers do you know of that go to these depths to save the customer hassle and money

I don't like to show things like this on open forums as it helps other kit manufactures from doing there own thinking but it gives people an idea of the effort we make to help the customers build there cars. this is the reason our murci kit is the price it is, because there is no stone unturned


Genuine VALIO internals below



(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n261/extreme_011/ferrari430light6valio.jpg)





Genuine Hella internals bellow



(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n261/extreme_011/ferrari430light7hella.jpg)






The standard hella light we started with below



(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n261/extreme_011/ferrari430light5start.jpg)







The standard hella light with our solenoid in the high beam position below



(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n261/extreme_011/ferrari430light1.jpg)

(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n261/extreme_011/ferrari430light2.jpg)






The standard hella light with our solenoid in the low beam position below



(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n261/extreme_011/ferrari430light3.jpg)





The rear of our unit with adjusters below.



(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n261/extreme_011/ferrari430light4.jpg)






The unit installed in the shell showing adjusters in place below



(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n261/extreme_011/ferrari430light8shell.jpg)






the unit installed with the upper shell on top below, this is now built the same way the genuine light is, fully adjustable and sealed below



(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n261/extreme_011/ferrari430light9shell.jpg)


(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n261/extreme_011/ferrari430light10shell.jpg)







Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on November 28, 2009, 03:47:10 PM
Wow that really is fantastic, and it looks outstanding. There is only one question left: The headlights units from
Fiberglass your going to sell are probably only for the UK market. Because the European versions of the headlight
units give light to the opposite direction or am I wrong?

But I have to say the it really looks as real is it could get. You really done a fantastic job.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EXTREME on November 28, 2009, 04:26:31 PM
Wow that really is fantastic, and it looks outstanding. There is only one question left: The headlights units from
Fiberglass your going to sell are probably only for the UK market. Because the European versions of the headlight
units give light to the opposite direction or am I wrong?

But I have to say the it really looks as real is it could get. You really done a fantastic job.  ;D ;D ;D



Good question!!! I forgot to put this in, we also do the light for left hand drive builds  ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Mr O- mer on November 28, 2009, 04:39:06 PM
Amazingly, this is one reason why I chose the extreme. even though I have selected the Murcielago at the time. so I'm going to buy the 430 next time .. I am incredibly impressed with the job extreme perform ... Looking forward to seeing more of the 430 when it is done .. stand on, ... You realize our dream cars
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: HAR888 on November 28, 2009, 05:46:44 PM
wow, well done !! Yes, this is extreme as we know them! And exactly this is what other manufacturers don't do...and the reason you should never buy a splashed kit. You will never get all these important things with it..and then good luck in finding a solution. No, well done Ashley! Impressive!
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EXTREME on November 28, 2009, 06:08:21 PM
wow, well done !! Yes, this is extreme as we know them! And exactly this is what other manufacturers don't do...and the reason you should never buy a splashed kit. You will never get all these important things with it..and then good luck in finding a solution. No, well done Ashley! Impressive!

Thanks for the nice comment!!

If we make this much effort to make the light then how much effort do you think goes into the design of a full kit  ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: HAR888 on November 28, 2009, 06:13:40 PM
wow, well done !! Yes, this is extreme as we know them! And exactly this is what other manufacturers don't do...and the reason you should never buy a splashed kit. You will never get all these important things with it..and then good luck in finding a solution. No, well done Ashley! Impressive!

Thanks for the nice comment!!

If we make this much effort to make the light then how much effort do you think goes into the design of a full kit  ;D

yes, I can imagine. And can't wait to see your first real production car...the THING!!! Yeah!!!!! No, kudos, you guys know what you do!
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on November 28, 2009, 06:14:27 PM
Wow that really is fantastic, and it looks outstanding. There is only one question left: The headlights units from
Fiberglass your going to sell are probably only for the UK market. Because the European versions of the headlight
units give light to the opposite direction or am I wrong?

But I have to say the it really looks as real is it could get. You really done a fantastic job.  ;D ;D ;D



Good question!!! I forgot to put this in, we also do the light for left hand drive builds  ;D ;D

Wow that really is great news, thanks for the fast and fantastic news. The only thing I need now is money haha. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: diesel on November 28, 2009, 11:56:48 PM
Thanks that have written any information. But you can answer some questions?
If I am ready to buy the complete set - at all not expecting photos - I at least should know that that is included into the complete set? As in this forum wrote that complete sets are ready for a long time. The instruction on construction too already means is? Means it is already possible to buy the complete set and to start to build the magnificent car? :)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Shadowlands on November 29, 2009, 05:04:33 PM
Fair enough lights look nice, body looks nice but has anyone got a pic of a finished car. I bought my car nearly a year ago with the idea of starting soon all I needed was a pic or a vid to get a visual to see if the proportions were rite. A pat on the back for DJ and his kit and DNA but they are just slightly out of proportion for me to actually buy. So this is my frustration I have a car that I don't want to strip until I seen the finished one but I payed serious good money for it and every day it's dropping like bombs and the best thing is I don't even drive it, it just sits in my lock up taking up space now. I'm sick of looking at it and waiting with anticipation but if I have to start this car next year I think I will just go with the Mr2 DNA choice to satisfi this craving. Cool looking car extreme but I fear it's going to be an other 6 months before you final get your Promotinal car done. I got a few weeks left with the contract of my lockup after that it's somewhere smaller and a kit that is easy and more managable. As much as I didn't want to I fear I mite have to go with the DNA choice. :-(
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Shadowlands on November 29, 2009, 05:24:03 PM
Ps I just read a reply from cdrsskull in the topic, Pics of 430 and it stated he was in with extreme and seen there demo in July which was nearly finished and all it needed was a few tweaks. Now that was almost 6months ago. I'm no expert but please don't insult my intelligents either. Extreme must be giving their 430 some serious tweaks. It takes an F1 team 6 months to design the very highest level of technology that goes into and outside a car so I am expecting nothing but perfection on this one, but comments like Cdrskull can help but make me think what on earth or they doing or are they just taking us for a ride thinking that they can sell us something that could take a lifetime to complete. 
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EXTREME on November 29, 2009, 06:31:07 PM
Ps I just read a reply from cdrsskull in the topic, Pics of 430 and it stated he was in with extreme and seen there demo in July which was nearly finished and all it needed was a few tweaks. Now that was almost 6months ago. I'm no expert but please don't insult my intelligents either. Extreme must be giving their 430 some serious tweaks. It takes an F1 team 6 months to design the very highest level of technology that goes into and outside a car so I am expecting nothing but perfection on this one, but comments like Cdrskull can help but make me think what on earth or they doing or are they just taking us for a ride thinking that they can sell us something that could take a lifetime to complete.  


I am sorry you feel that way, We have been developing the Mercedes AMG DTM, bike engine mini, Porsche 997, and the  THING in the same space of time. The 430 is the same as the 360 with scoops in different places so I think you can assume it is dimensionally correct as our 360 is, the only difference in our 360 and 430 are added brackets to assist the customer to install the kit (header tank brackets, battery tray, so on so on) and a new rear frame with new improved fixing points, We have murcies to build, Porsche’s to build ,AMG DTMs to build, smart cars to build, minis to build , 360s to build, 355s to build,  So as you can see the lads are very busy , The THING has taken priority over everything for me personally for the last 6 months, but now it is close to finished we can get back on track, I think everyone knows I am very personate about my work but sometimes it is nice to do things I want to do rather than what other people want me to do. We have refrained from posting pics of finished 430s as we have been going through legal battles with Ferrari recently and do not wish to provoke the situation. From what I can gather DNA also got letters from the solicitors of Ferrari, what ended up with this I do not know.  I can happily say we are in the clear from any low suit from them, There is a time period that you have to abide by when replicating a car, if you breach that period you will defiantly be in a situation that will turn for the worst. Ferrari are aware of the people that have breeched this period and I have been told they are now going to be proceeding law suits against the companies. Good job we know what we are doing. When you design something you get what is called an automatic design right for a period of time even if you do not immediately put a design right on the design. So Ferrari not putting a design right on the 430 panels in the first place does not affect copy right law(please note a design right is not the same as a patent on an idea). I am sorry you feel that you have to go to DNA for a kit but I wish you  the best on your build,
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: stevewushu on November 29, 2009, 06:51:21 PM
Slightly off topic but is the 911 conversion ready for sale yet?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Argus X575 on November 30, 2009, 08:18:19 AM
I simply adore the fact that we get to see the portions that we do considering the current situation not to mention that it is somewhat a legal issue with Ferrari and all.  I for one have no choice but to wait and wait I shall.  Thanks Extreme for your hard work and definitely for cutting out of your busy schedule to give us an ear full of what is going on.  I respect the fact you explained all that you have where you really did not have to but that speaks to the professionalism of you and the company as a whole.

Shadow I wish you the best of luck with your DNA build and to some point your frustration is noticeable but I would not 100% say it is valid. Example-If you save for a car for college (Nov) and say it is a Honda Hybrid.  If you want a used 2008 and you are close to your purchase amount would it not be best to wait until after the new year to get a better used Hybrid with less miles and better everything than the year you initially intended?  My point is frustration can put a damper on a dream but patience can make one's wildest or exotic dream come true.  Use the pent up frustration on your build or if you are in the UK take a trip over.  I am in the States and we do not have the 406 here so imagine how we feel waiting on the MK2.  In any case I hope you are happy with your spider kit I will keep saving and waiting on my replica.  Have a great day and de safe.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: BO55ROX on December 02, 2009, 01:17:22 AM
I cant wait to see the big mama. i hear its  gona be white,. the extreme F430 is the best im still saving for my one a few more month ill be ready to buy. but what is freaking me out is the build i no nothing ziltch about cars/car body's/mechanics nothing nor do i have the space living in london you can imagine. and to part build 3000 pounds is a good price but that means puting it off for another 6 month while i save. and even than there's the fit out painting puting the glass on the little details the interior i dont want to give it to 2 bit mechanic to do a botch job and charge me a arm and a leg SOME ONE PLEASE TEL ME WHAT TO DO


Any way was out last saterday night in londons west end Piccadilly circus. and there it was a DNA f430 spider driving down. it looked sh.......................................t like a fat bloke with a small head   
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: MC developments on December 02, 2009, 08:37:08 PM
If you think the dna looks crap, then you wont go for a Dave Jones Kit either so your 'stuck' with an extreme. However if your short on car knowledge and cant weld, to be honest, I'd advise you not to buy one. You'll never complete it and get pissed off and have to sell it for a loss.
this may sound harsh, but being involved with kits for the past 20 years, I've seen it time and time again
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Beach on December 03, 2009, 02:05:24 AM
I agree with you MC,

You need mechanic knowledge and bodywork experience.

I tought the builder 360expert said he'd bought a mig welder and learned it on the job.
I think this is really exceptonnel. I respect you 360 expert.

A project like this isn't for dummy's...
Even to own an extreme replica. nobody'll do jobs on the car the way you want.
If you expect this you'll need a lot of cash and patience,
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: redone355 on December 03, 2009, 12:58:58 PM
I bought a part built project and it's been a nightmare to sort it out.  I have the knowledge and skills (well, most of them) and trying to piece together the last persons logic is still causing me a problem, parts missing etc. etc.

I think it is better to build it yourself from scratch, take your time, be methodical and you'll end up with a better end product and may even have your sanity intact.  This of course depends on your skills in many areas.

As many people have said already, if you don't have the skills, either learn or get you hands in them pockets.

The most important thing is that it is safe and you have fun building it.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: fox_man_chris on December 03, 2009, 07:01:00 PM
The mist I'd ever done before starting my 360 is change a starter motor! I've learnt the skills I need as I go along. Whilst I admit I've had to go back and re-do bits I made a mistake on I'm learning and getting better. Take your time and be prepared to put many hours in to get it right and there isn't anything that needs specialist knowledge or skills. I paid extreme to weld the box sections as these are the most important and the rest I plan to do myself.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EXTREME on December 08, 2009, 04:02:15 PM
I cant wait to see the big mama. i hear its  gona be white,. the extreme F430 is the best im still saving for my one a few more month ill be ready to buy. but what is freaking me out is the build i no nothing ziltch about cars/car body's/mechanics nothing nor do i have the space living in london you can imagine. and to part build 3000 pounds is a good price but that means puting it off for another 6 month while i save. and even than there's the fit out painting puting the glass on the little details the interior i dont want to give it to 2 bit mechanic to do a botch job and charge me a arm and a leg SOME ONE PLEASE TEL ME WHAT TO DO


Any way was out last saterday night in londons west end Piccadilly circus. and there it was a DNA f430 spider driving down. it looked sh.......................................t like a fat bloke with a small head   
To this stage ready for the painter to take over is £2000 now,  This is the one been painted white at the moment.

(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n261/extreme_011/f4301.jpg)

(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n261/extreme_011/F4302.jpg)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EXTREME on December 08, 2009, 04:06:20 PM
Just putting rear and front lights in, interior and wheels then some nice pics for you.






(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n261/extreme_011/F4303.jpg)

(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n261/extreme_011/F4304.jpg)

(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n261/extreme_011/F4305.jpg)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EXTREME on December 08, 2009, 06:52:22 PM
To the above stage just another £2000, so that’s £4000 fitted and painted ready for windows, suspension, lights, and interior to be installed. I doubt you will ever get a better price than that!!!!!

Include a kit on top of that £6000 then the car on top of that at £1500 and rear lights at £300 then suspension £500 and wheels???  sorry forgot windows £300,     

 Total  (depending on wheels around £1500)      £14100, Why would anyone want to build one themselves 
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: aak1203 on December 08, 2009, 08:05:17 PM
holy shit... :o :o :o :o :o im going to see the bank manager tomorrow for sure.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: janman92 on December 08, 2009, 08:25:57 PM
what the hag ?!?!?!
what are those cars in the back ??
doeas extreme build them also??
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: DoveUS on December 09, 2009, 12:29:49 AM
First post...have been following for over a year and finally registered to interact as I prepare for my purchase. I found a mint 50,000 mile MkII Turbo here so am considering 430 or Murci.

430's looking awesome...well done guys.

I'm a Brit relocated to Chicago, so I'm waiting for this to be available on the MR2 as Peugeot is not an option over here as far as I can tell.

So, when will Extreme be ready to complete the 430 on an MR2, presumably just the MkII correct? Also, any idea whether a spyder will be an option?

Hope to make it to a UK show next year, still have family in the UK.

Lastly, are interiors yet available for both, as LHD?

Many thanks,

Barry
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on December 09, 2009, 02:38:15 AM
Wow Extreme that really looks sick. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: DoveUS on December 09, 2009, 04:11:12 AM
PS  I notice the red car is LHD. Please tell us it's coming stateside so we can see it somewhere near here soon...

The Brit in Chicago
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Black Cherry Pearl on December 09, 2009, 07:20:35 AM

(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n261/extreme_011/F4305.jpg)



Screw the FErrari I like the olds cars in the background what are they please an will they be kits??

Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Dimme on December 09, 2009, 10:24:17 AM
@extreme: that LHD car, is that a customer car or one that you gonna sell?  ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: snowmanappie on December 09, 2009, 06:48:46 PM
All those new questions :) Some posts earlier everyone was just bithcin to see some pictures. I will just say: thanks a lot for the photos! Looking great! BTW, put some text over the photos so people will not steal the photos from the forum without knowing the source.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Matt_360 on December 10, 2009, 12:37:52 PM
They look like Beauford's to me.... Think they we're based on Granada's.





(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n261/extreme_011/F4305.jpg)



Screw the FErrari I like the olds cars in the background what are they please an will they be kits??


Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: SuR on December 10, 2009, 07:20:23 PM
i like the wheels on the left car :D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: phoooby on December 11, 2009, 12:23:31 AM
Spot the Gallardo wheel in the background........
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Argus X575 on December 11, 2009, 02:37:15 AM
To the above stage just another £2000, so that’s £4000 fitted and painted ready for windows, suspension, lights, and interior to be installed. I doubt you will ever get a better price than that!!!!!

Include a kit on top of that £6000 then the car on top of that at £1500 and rear lights at £300 then suspension £500 and wheels???  sorry forgot windows £300,     

 Total  (depending on wheels around £1500)      £14100, Why would anyone want to build one themselves 
GREAT WORK-MASTERFUL!!!  :o :o :o :o :o :o :o.  Just to be sure we can get the kit+bond+fit  and ready for paint for £8000 or is that deal been remitted?  Was just wondering.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: GTOpower on December 11, 2009, 10:37:20 AM
Spot the Gallardo wheel in the background........

well spotted :) is this a hint of things to come?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: poliviopj on December 12, 2009, 06:25:51 AM
When this wonder comes out, I'ld love that someone here make modifications to the kit, something like transform the 430 in the Scuderia 430!! That would be Awesome!  ;D
Sorry for my bad english!
Im only 18, from Dominican Republic, just another island in all the caribbean Ocean.
And i cant see when i can buy my first Extreme kit.  :-\
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: janman92 on December 12, 2009, 12:14:29 PM
this polish copamy sell scuderia parts and kits

here are the parts
http://www.fiberglassproducts.de/index.php/cPath/910?osCsid=klvfejf7fmedvn55cjckscgfa5

and here is the kit
http://www.fiberglassproducts.de/product_info.php/cPath/919/products_id/747?osCsid=klvfejf7fmedvn55cjckscgfa5
klick on the pics to enlarge them

 
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on December 13, 2009, 10:54:45 PM
this polish copamy sell scuderia parts and kits

here are the parts
http://www.fiberglassproducts.de/index.php/cPath/910?osCsid=klvfejf7fmedvn55cjckscgfa5

and here is the kit
http://www.fiberglassproducts.de/product_info.php/cPath/919/products_id/747?osCsid=klvfejf7fmedvn55cjckscgfa5
klick on the pics to enlarge them

 

But do you think they will fit well, I mean there was someone one here that says that the dimensions are terrible.
I do believe that the rear bumper will fit well, but I have my doubts one the front bumper. What do you think? ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: poliviopj on December 14, 2009, 05:07:07 AM
I cant call that 'QUALITY' thats why i came here asking if someday extreme will make a kit-variant, something like.. if u Buy an Extreme f430, You'ld have the choice to have a normal kit or a Scuderia one..

That polish kit in my opinion will never fit well on an mr2, even the pics that they have of the kit all-together look extrange.. i mean i can put 2 finger in some empty spaces between the front bumper and the hood. so i dont know why i cant take this kit so serious.  ::)
But im not critizing in negative ways, cuz just the fact of doin a kit wich can fit and make look a normal car like the mr2 like a ferrari, its talent, hard work, and decision of make one thing in ur own. So i think i value that!  :)
The point if its too accurate or not, its another history.

I mean if i could i'ld bought a DJ kit because in my opinion the demostrator that they show in their videos looks beautyful though i heard so much that its too small compared to the genuine.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Dimme on December 14, 2009, 07:46:41 AM
The NOVITEC ROSSO kit is just awesome!!  ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: janman92 on December 14, 2009, 02:39:12 PM
well i' ve vistited them ( cuz i live in berlin and its not far away from my uncles house)
and i' ve seen a nearly finished kit.
it was very niche no unusual gaps or other stuff.
really nice kit. belive me

greetz janman92


ps cant await the pics of a completeley finished 430
  especially of the interior and engine cover .
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on December 14, 2009, 02:52:55 PM
well i' ve vistited them ( cuz i live in berlin and its not far away from my uncles house)
and i' ve seen a nearly finished kit.
it was very niche no unusual gaps or other stuff.
really nice kit. belive me

greetz janman92


ps cant await the pics of a completeley finished 430
  especially of the interior and engine cover .

And do you think the Rear bumper will fit well on the Extreme430. I only need the black grill part
at the top of the bumper, so I hope that this part will fit.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: janman92 on December 14, 2009, 08:07:24 PM
ok (2 kunfu munky)
as wie all know the extreme kit is 100% identic and this bumber is offered in the scuderia kit ( and their kits are also 100% identic to the genuine cars )and as a seperate part for the original ferrari . and yes i think it will fit. and believe me as someone said already on this forum its very important that its well mounted. of course its not built for the extreme kit so you defintely will have to change it a bit ( maybe like the fittings) 
the bumber is made of one complete part you will see it if you take a look at the pics
http://www.fiberglassproducts.de/product_info.php/cPath/910/products_id/707?osCsid=lhufs11hme5ntcbmtnudfr0at5

http://www.fiberglassproducts.de/product_info.php/cPath/910/products_id/706?osCsid=lhufs11hme5ntcbmtnudfr0at5
all in all the front and rear bumper will cost like 2000 pounds with shipping

greetz janman92
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on December 14, 2009, 08:22:50 PM
ok (2 kunfu munky)
as wie all know the extreme kit is 100% identic and this bumber is offered in the scuderia kit ( and their kits are also 100% identic to the genuine cars )and as a seperate part for the original ferrari . and yes i think it will fit. and believe me as someone said already on this forum its very important that its well mounted. of course its not built for the extreme kit so you defintely will have to change it a bit ( maybe like the fittings) 
the bumber is made of one complete part you will see it if you take a look at the pics
http://www.fiberglassproducts.de/product_info.php/cPath/910/products_id/707?osCsid=lhufs11hme5ntcbmtnudfr0at5

http://www.fiberglassproducts.de/product_info.php/cPath/910/products_id/706?osCsid=lhufs11hme5ntcbmtnudfr0at5
all in all the front and rear bumper will cost like 2000 pounds with shipping

greetz janman92

Aaah oke, if it's molded from the original bumper then it must be oke. And I know that the bumper consists out
of one part but I'm just going to cut it a part to my specific needs haha, thanks for the info though.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: janman92 on December 14, 2009, 08:25:14 PM
no
i dont think that its made out of the original :)
but it looks good
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on December 14, 2009, 09:11:24 PM
no
i dont think that its made out of the original :)
but it looks good

Then it could be a problem, will see with the time.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: janman92 on December 14, 2009, 09:14:34 PM
well
i dont know wether the extreme f430 kit is made out of a ganuine but i dont think so.
an believe me i looks good
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EXTREME on December 15, 2009, 12:20:20 AM
well i' ve vistited them ( cuz i live in berlin and its not far away from my uncles house)
and i' ve seen a nearly finished kit.
it was very niche no unusual gaps or other stuff.
really nice kit. belive me

greetz janman92


ps cant await the pics of a completeley finished 430
  especially of the interior and engine cover .

Our 430 is the same as our 360, it is moulded of a genuine car, all the panels are interchangeable with the genuine car, a customer has already purchased one of these Scuderia
bumpers from  them , he brought it to us for his car and it had no fixing points and would not fit a genuine car so obviously would not fit ours,  The company in question seems to like saying they have things they don’t


Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Argus X575 on December 15, 2009, 02:28:35 AM
Hey Extreme are you still offering the £8000 deal (kit+bond+fit)? and if so for how much longer?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: STRDAL360 on December 15, 2009, 10:34:08 AM
Hey, Damian, any plan on making the Scuderia version kit as well?  There seems to be some demand for it.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on December 15, 2009, 11:19:30 AM
Hey, Damian, any plan on making the Scuderia version kit as well?  There seems to be some demand for it.

Indeed there is, I was searching on the Mad Mechanics forum, but I could find the same superb quality as
Extreme has, and I want the exact rear bumper parts otherwise it would look like shit. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: janman92 on December 15, 2009, 06:12:40 PM
ok
i see, i was wrong  ;D
but it looked nice all together (their kit)

but on theit web site is written that it fits a real ferrari so as extreme already said they like saying they have things they don’t......
crap

greetz janman92

ps : and was it so wrong taht you even didnt try to install it ??



Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EXTREME on December 15, 2009, 06:37:04 PM
ok
i see, i was wrong  ;D
but it looked nice all together (their kit)

but on theit web site is written that it fits a real ferrari so as extreme already said they like saying they have things they don’t......
crap

greetz janman92

ps : and was it so wrong taht you even didnt try to install it ??


Yes we did try to fit it, but there was now way it was going to fit even if we made our own fixing brackets, it was way off, so it looks like we will have to go to ferrari for the parts (as usual)  :'(




Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EXTREME on December 23, 2009, 10:41:34 AM
some pics of our white one

(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n261/extreme_011/430ff3.jpg)

(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n261/extreme_011/430ff2.jpg)

(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n261/extreme_011/430ff1.jpg)

Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on December 23, 2009, 11:35:12 AM
Damn that looks hot, thanks a lot. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Mr O- mer on December 23, 2009, 03:05:54 PM
That was just so beautiful:) it is seriously as genuine ferrari . :o :o.... very much fun for so little money, that we appreciate  ;D............... Can promise you, this had been done in cold Norway or in Sweden or Denmark, so this will cost 500,000 to 600,000 Norwegian kroner (50000-60000 GB pounds) including work :-[ .............
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Argus X575 on December 23, 2009, 05:34:00 PM
HOT is not the word.  Since the car was in gel coat and the two pictures were placed in the chat I have kept them up staring at them both. Thanks, Extreme, for the two new pictures to study :) :).  Fantastic work can not wait to see the finished product and have a safe and prosperous build week.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: SuR on December 25, 2009, 11:13:20 AM
@EXTREME: What will be the car in the background??!! LOOKS SUPERERB :D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: BO55ROX on January 01, 2010, 03:44:28 AM

Would these seats look good on f430

(http://z.about.com/d/cars/1/0/a/g/vw_08r32_seats.jpg)
(http://allworldcars.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/2010_opel_insignia_opc_st_vauxhal_vxr_st_7.jpg)

how about these wheels for a scudi 216 pounds each

(http://www.performancealloys.com/images/products/wheels/large/excite.jpg)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: phoooby on January 03, 2010, 12:00:56 AM
Extreme web site has been updated with 430 stuff ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: DoveUS on January 03, 2010, 03:48:20 AM
Cool. More than that. Murci, DTM pages also updated.

DoveUS
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: janman92 on January 03, 2010, 02:35:36 PM
there are also updates on the 360 and 355   ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: BLAZE on January 25, 2010, 12:06:46 PM
Hello EXTREME  :) , just want to say that there are people (like me) still waiting to see your demonstrator 406 /430 .I want  to see the finished demonstrator with all the extras (fake engine ,brake calipers ).

The f430 is very popular here ,so you can see f430s very often,and I see a good business opportunity importing such a perfect replicas like yours .I hope  you will do better job on the INTERIOR - in my case it's very important ! (buying original interior parts is mega expensive)

I like the updated website and hope to see more progress on the f430 project I'm after .

Hope to do some businees (long term) .

Alex Evans
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: X-HOTT on January 29, 2010, 10:42:16 AM

Bumpy bump.. Any one heard anymore news on the 430. Has any been completed? :-\
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: aak1203 on March 16, 2010, 08:37:34 PM
its been a while since any updates????????????????????????? >:( >:( >:( >:( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: zero2sixty on April 22, 2010, 09:15:58 AM
A very long time ago I remembered hearing projects on a mr2 430, 430 spyder, and the demo being completed in white.

can we get updates on those  ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EXTREME on April 22, 2010, 10:37:41 AM
We have now been told by the painters that it is coming back early next week. It has now been there 5 months!!!!! So it best be a good job, I would like to say we will never be using that company again!!!!!
DNA have also had a car there for over 4 months waiting for paint and they are also giving them feeble excuses as to why it is not finished. 
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: lo5er on April 22, 2010, 02:35:53 PM
If there is an opening come down here take a look at mine and if you like we can paint them for you.
Den
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: fox_man_chris on April 23, 2010, 02:57:10 PM
Not sure if this is true but I heard Bramwith were painting the demo car for extreme and had a DNA in (that's what they told me when I phoned them). I tried to book my car in with them but had little success. I'm sure they have good reasons for this but just a word or warning if anyone is thinking of using them as I heard a very many different and varied excuses  ::).
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: dangerrous on April 23, 2010, 04:28:24 PM
Okay, I know I'm not building an extreme, but it seems 'the painters' is a problem for a few people. I have been around motors for too long to mention and know of a couple of 'back street' painters who I'd trust to paint my car. Martin is one of them he is also currently investing in water based equipment to be ready for the change over.
 The car would be prepped and sprayed in 7 working days, he is located 15 minutes from the dartford tunnel.
 How can you prove that he's any good I hear you ask? well he's used by some classic Aston martin owners and the favoured choice by many restoration specialists in the area. And above all his a really nice genuine guy
Pm me if you require his work number
Hope this helps
D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: zero2sixty on May 02, 2010, 11:12:29 AM
Hello extreme, just wondering what's the update on the mr2 430? Are you taking orders on it now?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: CdRsKuLL on May 02, 2010, 03:27:24 PM
Hello extreme, just wondering what's the update on the mr2 430? Are you taking orders on it now?

The kit is ready apart from the headlights last I heard.. might be a waiting list but they have been going out the door. Just give them a bell. :-)

Steve
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on May 06, 2010, 02:36:19 PM
Hey Extreme, how was the painting on the Extreme430 and are there any pics of the newly painted 430? ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: MC developments on May 18, 2010, 09:08:30 AM
ahem you've got competition

http://www.dnaoc.co.uk/index.php/topic,750.msg6680/topicseen.html#new
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: dangerrous on May 18, 2010, 04:51:16 PM
DNA don't comment on this site as this is an extreme owner's forum
 Their kit is a budget version, quality is still there but we'll have to wait and see what extras, if any, will be offered ie dash, engine cover, two seat conversion etc. if all these extras were offered could it still be classed as a budget kit?
 No matter what a company puts out as a comprehensive kit we still want more.....
 Lambolambo has hit gold but the poor guy hasn't got enough hours in the day, just an example.
 
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: redone355 on May 19, 2010, 01:33:35 PM
The rear wheel looks as though it's not in the centre.  It appears too far forward, nearly touching the arch.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: krispoppleton on May 19, 2010, 02:23:38 PM
It probably just needs some fine tuning.

It will be interesting to see if the elusive Extreme Demo gets finished now, as there is serious competition on the block ???
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: HAR888 on May 20, 2010, 01:15:34 AM
It probably just needs some fine tuning.

It will be interesting to see if the elusive Extreme Demo gets finished now, as there is serious competition on the block ???

hmm..don't think it is "serious" competition. Extreme is still the only car that (size-wise) is 99% correct. The DNA looks ok-ish to me...but the door and front gives it away. Still better than a "dwarf 430" ;-)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Argus X575 on May 20, 2010, 01:48:20 AM
I would definitely agree and also the height of the kit body seems a bit too low not as beefy as the original not to mention the window (doors) area is too long not sure if that is because of the windscreen dimensions or what.  I got a little surprised when I read it but checked into it and the filler cap and tank has to be moved further up as well as on the wrong side.  I am not knocking it as those guys put some hard work behind it and for them to step out of their element (convertibles) I give them respect as should we all.  However comparing it to Extreme's is ridiculous, I mean you must look at Extreme's package offering versus theirs.  Extreme gives a car with a good all round package and reputation with very little to do or add in the luxury department as the interior (from what I have researched is top notch.  The Cougar's interior may have leather but much is to be re-worked to get it to simulate or come close to the actual 430.  Either it makes for another option for us in States.  I on the other hand have my sites on Extreme unless something truly amazing happens then.......
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KHMMOTORSPORTS on May 20, 2010, 02:56:17 AM
Lord knows we need a subsitute donor car or a good proven space chassis here in the states for the 360/430 builds. After i get this Murci done i want to start on one or the other pretty quick but want V8/mid engine. I cant wait to order the body kit for the murci my 06 replica chassis is almost complete im working on getting the OEM Dash cluster wired to the GM ecu over the next few days. Cross your fingers.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: MC developments on May 20, 2010, 10:07:24 AM
It probably just needs some fine tuning.

It will be interesting to see if the elusive Extreme Demo gets finished now, as there is serious competition on the block ???

hmm..don't think it is "serious" competition. Extreme is still the only car that (size-wise) is 99% correct. The DNA looks ok-ish to me...but the door and front gives it away. Still better than a "dwarf 430" ;-)
True, I guess its not competition, as to be in competition you need to be competing against something !  ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: krispoppleton on May 20, 2010, 10:18:58 AM
Ha ha MC,

I know the DNA isn't exact and I am a big lover of all Extreme, but my point was that it is a coupe and it does look nice and we will be able to see a finished car.

I know the Extreme 430 is basically the same as the 360, but it does start to make you wonder how other firms are knocking out kits and demos, but this demo still isn't here.

Sorry for saying it, but people who are on the fence and waiting for the demo, may well defect to the dark side.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Keyan on May 20, 2010, 12:37:34 PM
That Dna kit will be the scuderia kit. Also it will be a cheap version of the other one. Turnkey will be around 21.000 gbp. This is very very cheap for a dna kit with all the stuff with it and a extreme and this one will not be so diffrent from eachother maybe here and there some things that are not the same. So far as i can see dna has aslo a nice interior kit for the f430. DNA is doing a good job if you ask me. If you buy a replica if will always be a replica and never a real one i would deffo go for the cheapest option there is with the most stuff on it like interior,wheels,etc etc witch are included in the dna kit.

But i am in for a murci so a f430 is not my thing  8)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: dangerrous on May 20, 2010, 08:43:43 PM
I wasn't aware they were offering interiors etc for the cougar.
D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EXTREME on May 28, 2010, 06:08:20 PM
Hello All,
Extreme has been implementing lots of positive changes within the company over the last couple of months to help us cope with the over whelming number of orders we have received for our kits.

Extreme have chosen not to visit any shows this year whilst we reorganise the business to cope with the increased demand and implement the necessary changes required to move the company onto the next level.

Our product range has expanded dramatically and we have had to adapt to cope with this.

In relation to our demonstrators we are in the process of replacing all of our demo cars and our 430 should be back with us during the week commencing the 07/06/10.

We have shipped lots of these kits to date and all of the required parts are available.

The car is identical to build as the 360 hence you can have complete confidence the kit can be completed.

Recent developments for our 360 / 430 kits include a revised front suspension to improve the driving experience as the fitment of large wheels to any car (including our competitor’s cars) will cause it to tramline. As with the Murci kit we have manufactured new lower arms and top mounts to increase the castor angle.

Lots more positive things are on the way so dismiss us at your PERILL!!!

You can be confident that our cars are and always will be the ONLY kit cars that look right from every angle.

If you have any questions please send them directly to:  info@extreme-sportscars.com
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: stevewushu on May 29, 2010, 07:21:13 AM
I will post this message directly to your e-mail address aswell Extreme...

Any plans on new projects? coming away from Ferrari or Lambo? Has the X997 been shelved along with the Vanquish? and the MR2 430?
Just an indication of where you're heading would be cool guys.
Cheers
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: conan on May 29, 2010, 08:24:32 AM
I will post this message directly to your e-mail address aswell Extreme...

Any plans on new projects? coming away from Ferrari or Lambo? Has the X997 been shelved along with the Vanquish? and the MR2 430?
Just an indication of where you're heading would be cool guys.
Cheers


+1

I'd like to know this too, especially the MR2 430 or Gallardo plans. Waiting for response..!
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: conan on May 29, 2010, 11:04:05 AM
Submitting an idea now would simply mean = a kit 3-4 years later. Or longer, seeing how long it takes to create a 430 from a complete 360 kit.

So are you saying there is nothing in the works at the moment ?


Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: conan on May 31, 2010, 10:30:16 AM
Submitting an idea now would simply mean = a kit 3-4 years later. Or longer, seeing how long it takes to create a 430 from a complete 360 kit.

So are you saying there is nothing in the works at the moment ?




I'd take the non reply as confirmation that no new kit is currently in planning. But for ideas, I'd vote for Audi R8 replica on  Toyota Mr2 Mk3.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: janman92 on May 31, 2010, 03:03:47 PM
still waiting for pics     wich were besides promised to be posted here like half a year ago..................
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on May 31, 2010, 10:25:07 PM
still waiting for pics     wich were besides promised to be posted here like half a year ago..................

Haha indeedy.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EXTREME on June 01, 2010, 01:01:57 PM
As stated in the last post our 430 should be back with us during the week commencing the 07/06/10. We now have a new painter that is first class and quick
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on June 02, 2010, 01:32:23 PM
Nice body-kit for the Extreme 430, only a little bit expensive haha:

(http://www.premier4509.com/images/products/8/main.png)
(http://www.premier4509.com/images/products/8/rear.png)

Greetz Munky  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: janman92 on June 02, 2010, 06:10:19 PM
yeah.
but i dont like these wheels.... 
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: GTOpower on June 02, 2010, 07:24:37 PM
You will not be able to drop the Pug that low because the chassis will be resting on the road.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: XPERT360 on June 02, 2010, 11:23:57 PM
oooo looks familier. ;D ;D ;D

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn254/XPERT360/Photo419.jpg)

Hey Jim, just managed to get the full 100mm drop on mine and can get full lock on the front wheels without fouling the arches - AT LAST!!!! My sills are just 70mm from the floor. Bet its hard as fek on the ride tho, which Im gonna see this week end how its drives.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: janman92 on June 03, 2010, 09:41:41 AM
2 xpert
where did you buy the wing ( wich company)
what other non-standart parts have you fitted to the car??
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: DoveUS on June 03, 2010, 01:15:55 PM
Extreme et al,

Just a quick tip which will be helpful for all when you're quoting dates.

Americans type dates MM/DD/YY instead of DD/MM/YY so they read 07/06/10 as July 6th rather than English reading it as 7th of June.

From a Brit in Chicago...just over here buying the country back one house at a time...

DoveUS
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: XPERT360 on June 03, 2010, 03:42:22 PM
from china - ebay - a DRIFT WING which is universal with home made risers. Carbon Fibre about 70" long if I remember right. just do a search....there are loads for sale but get something bigger than 65" otherwise it will look silly.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: janman92 on June 03, 2010, 06:25:10 PM
xpert wehn will it be finished??
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: krispoppleton on June 08, 2010, 09:21:05 PM
Check out the Extreme website, the 430 pages have been updated with some new pics.
It is still a long way off complete though, but looks sweet.

http://www.extreme-sportscars.com/430/gallery.html

Don't know if this is the demo as in Dec we had a red one and a white one ???
The bottom pic appears to be a real 430, looking at the rear quarter windows and rear window vents it looks real, but basically exactly what the Extreme 430 will end up like.

I wondered how long it would take for the car to start moving forward, especially with the new car on the block.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on June 08, 2010, 10:56:34 PM
Check out the Extreme website, the 430 pages have been updated with some new pics.
It is still a long way off complete though, but looks sweet.

http://www.extreme-sportscars.com/430/gallery.html

Don't know if this is the demo as in Dec we had a red one and a white one ???
The bottom pic appears to be a real 430, looking at the rear quarter windows and rear window vents it looks real, but basically exactly what the Extreme 430 will end up like.

I wondered how long it would take for the car to start moving forward, especially with the new car on the block.

Nice find bro, I was looking there Yesterday and haven't seen anything. I was thinking about posting a post because haven't seen an progress on the 7th of June, but then again he said "in the week of 7th". It looks sooo good, I can't wait to buy one but I'm still saving up haha.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: zero2sixty on June 09, 2010, 12:40:05 AM
expert your car look amazing. i have a question though. how come you didnt get a challenge grill? or did you specifically wanted to paint the carbon fiber black?

cheers
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: XPERT360 on June 09, 2010, 12:02:10 PM
I will change it, but only when Ive got the spare dosh. I might even get this one wrapped in propper carbon, as the company I work for deals with Carbon Mods alot and I might squeeze a favour from them??
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Drew355 on June 09, 2010, 02:22:20 PM
Zero, the genuine black back sections are made from a grille mesh. It is perforated steel.
A carbon one would look cool though, & match the spoiler well.

Nigel - Top job mate, white & black is the colour to have!
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: zero2sixty on June 09, 2010, 04:15:58 PM
thanks for clearing it up for me drew. That would be insane! @ xpert360. You'll be the only 360 in white with a carbon back.   :o
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: janman92 on June 09, 2010, 09:55:09 PM
besides
the white 430 with the bodykit on is designed by anderson germany.......
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Argus X575 on June 10, 2010, 06:57:16 AM
Hello Gents, I hope everyone's day is going well.  I definitely agree with everyone as your 360 looks and sound outstanding. Matter of fact your finishing of Alien's is of the same level.  Top notch work Nigel and will be looking forward to completing Alien's 360 as well.  Hope the family is well.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: XPERT360 on June 10, 2010, 09:48:17 AM
besides
the white 430 with the bodykit on is designed by anderson germany.......


thanks guys. My car is based loosly on this

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn254/XPERT360/novitec-rosso-f430-race-gets-in-you.jpg)
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn254/XPERT360/novitec-rosso-f430-race-gets-in-you.jpg)
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn254/XPERT360/user1093_1176699616.jpg)
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn254/XPERT360/Picture079.jpg)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: AIG1355 on June 12, 2010, 09:12:06 AM
There are some pics of the demo fresh from paint taken on 6th June on Extreme's site.

http://www.extreme-sportscars.com/430/gallery.html
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: zero2sixty on June 12, 2010, 12:54:48 PM
too bad the pics are of it on an pug. when will the mr2 version be released?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: CdRsKuLL on June 12, 2010, 01:00:50 PM
too bad the pics are of it on an pug. when will the mr2 version be released?

I doubt it will to be honest. The last I saw was a mr2 with some 430 panels strapped to it, it's very doable.. especially with extreme's knowledge and ability but I think they will be concentrating on the 406 based release for now.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: zero2sixty on June 12, 2010, 11:09:41 PM
too bad the pics are of it on an pug. when will the mr2 version be released?

I doubt it will to be honest. The last I saw was a mr2 with some 430 panels strapped to it, it's very doable.. especially with extreme's knowledge and ability but I think they will be concentrating on the 406 based release for now.

And the bad news just keep on coming   :-[

The car looks nice though. But I thought they opted for white and not red?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: krispoppleton on June 13, 2010, 12:11:38 AM
I said the same White demo thing myself, these pics could have been taken along with the old red pics posted by Extreme last year ??

But the big week commencing thing was only 'the car back from the painters'

I am still wondering who will get their 430 Coupe demo finished first ?

I know the Extreme 430 is allegedly the same build as the 360, but with window issues, customers would like to see it is possible to finish the 430 dream !!!
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on June 15, 2010, 12:53:13 PM
And there is an Update again one the Gallery page: http://www.extreme-sportscars.com/430/gallery.html  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: MC developments on June 15, 2010, 06:54:12 PM
Nah looks fine to me
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EXTREME on June 18, 2010, 08:45:38 AM
our demo car that was painted white has now been re painted as the first job was no good, we have now decided to have it red, it is back with us on monday, at last !!!! 
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on June 18, 2010, 11:05:45 AM
our demo car that was painted white has now been re painted as the first job was no good, we have now decided to have it red, it is back with us on monday, at last !!!! 

Hey thats good news, so the first pics will be here on Monday evening?  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EXTREME on June 18, 2010, 03:21:35 PM
Yes, it has been painted for a week but we needed to finish one of our lambo builds and a 430 build for customers to free up some space to bring it back. Its been a long wait but it now it looks perfect. I understand peoples frustration but as you will know we have had a nightmare with Bramwith cars who first painted it. We are supposed to be taking them to court for it but we have recently been informed that they are going bankrupt so if anyone knows anyone with a car there get them to look into it 
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on June 21, 2010, 09:13:59 PM
Yes, it has been painted for a week but we needed to finish one of our lambo builds and a 430 build for customers to free up some space to bring it back. Its been a long wait but it now it looks perfect. I understand peoples frustration but as you will know we have had a nightmare with Bramwith cars who first painted it. We are supposed to be taking them to court for it but we have recently been informed that they are going bankrupt so if anyone knows anyone with a car there get them to look into it 

And? Do we have some nice pictures haha.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: janman92 on June 22, 2010, 12:28:39 PM
since dna announced their 430coupe it didnt take them so long to finish it.....
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on June 22, 2010, 02:26:52 PM
since dna announced their 430coupe it didnt take them so long to finish it.....

Indeed, and it really looks good. I does look a bit short though but I kinda like that. Hopefully Extreme is going to show there pics today.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: janman92 on June 22, 2010, 03:46:04 PM
yeahthe rear part (behind the door backwards) looks really too short
the rear grill is too high and the rear tires are not wide enough... but the rest is ok and all in all it really looks great
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EXTREME on June 22, 2010, 04:10:13 PM
Don’t worry the pics are on the way, it looks perfect  :o
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: janman92 on June 22, 2010, 04:11:44 PM
are you going to offer a scuderia kit??
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on June 22, 2010, 10:31:45 PM
Don’t worry the pics are on the way, it looks perfect  :o

Haha sounds good but now your making me jealous, I can't wait any more haha.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EXTREME on June 23, 2010, 11:28:47 AM
I have taken two days off work as the weather is that good, back on thursday, so will take some pics for you,
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on June 23, 2010, 03:43:13 PM
I have taken two days off work as the weather is that good, back on thursday, so will take some pics for you,

Aaah thank you very very much.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on June 25, 2010, 09:30:22 PM
I have taken two days off work as the weather is that good, back on thursday, so will take some pics for you,
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Have you enjoyed your 2 day of rest. And of course have you taken some nice pictures of the 430?  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: krispoppleton on June 29, 2010, 08:30:56 AM
Maybe they meant 2 weeks off ??

Ha ha, I dont think this will ever get finished, makes you wonder just how hard the car is to build.

But that is the sacrifice if you want a perfect replica.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on June 29, 2010, 09:43:56 AM
Maybe they meant 2 weeks off ??

Ha ha, I dont think this will ever get finished, makes you wonder just how hard the car is to build.

But that is the sacrifice if you want a perfect replica.

Hahaha indeed, I watch every 3 hours for an update with pics but nothing is happening. The build must be just as hard as a 360 build so I don't know what is holding him up. Maybe he forgot about me snif snif hahaha.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: scooby on June 29, 2010, 10:40:07 AM
I guess its now time to leave this area because nothing happened here.They always delay the build.Sorry for the everyone who is waiting the 430 buid from the extreme.but ? m leaving.its enough. :'(
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on June 29, 2010, 10:46:18 AM
I guess its now time to leave this area because nothing happened here.They always delay the build.Sorry for the everyone who is waiting the 430 buid from the extreme.but ? m leaving.its enough. :'(

Well I'm still cutting them some slag. Lets just say they are working so hard they forget somethings.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on June 29, 2010, 10:31:14 PM
from what i see the 360 aint that easy a build, and as extreme are advertising 360, 355 and murci's on ebay guess your answer is there, no 430 listed, and if they were so busy with 430 builds why would they then sell off all the other stuff at discounted prices
i see dna are launching more models and actually producing finished cars too.

Naah, I'm not afraid of those thinks I think there just busy.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on July 01, 2010, 08:29:31 AM
Are the pics still coming???  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: krispoppleton on July 01, 2010, 12:08:25 PM
It has to make you wonder, if the manufacturer cant finish a kit what chance does anyone else have !

It is alright saying the kits are available and people are buying, but clearly no-one is finishing them and they have been available for around a year now.
Also, showing a picture of a real 430 on the website is very misleading for people who don't know the history behind this car, bad practice really.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: fox_man_chris on July 01, 2010, 06:55:12 PM
There have been some movements within Extreme with Chris leaving and Damien coming back on board. I don't know if this has anything to do with their demo cars though.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EXTREME on July 01, 2010, 07:10:53 PM
Sorry I will post some pics tomorrow, we have been waiting for wheels and lights coming but still waiting, We have been inundated with kit sales and part builds in the last few months so things are been put off, If you want a 430 that bad then come and see it, if not then please don’t comment trying to make us look bad, I have better things to do with my time then come on here and read rubbish from people complaining about pics, this is not pointed at all just a few, you want to try building 3 cars at a time and a demo car also sending kits out it is not easy, but will post some pics tomorrow
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: EXTREME on July 01, 2010, 07:15:16 PM
from what i see the 360 aint that easy a build, and as extreme are advertising 360, 355 and murci's on ebay guess your answer is there, no 430 listed, and if they were so busy with 430 builds why would they then sell off all the other stuff at discounted prices
i see dna are launching more models and actually producing finished cars too.

The 430 is a new kit and the others are older so going at discounted price. Why would we want to sell a 430 at a discounted price when we cant keep up with orders now at the normal price
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: zero2sixty on July 01, 2010, 07:56:23 PM
What's the new price for the murci? will you offer lp bumpers?
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: diesel on July 02, 2010, 08:15:02 AM
I apologize to the visitors and the hosts of the forum. But this is the only way to connect with EXTREME because I can not call because they do not speak English. And the letters I do not answer.
I hate the day when I decided to buy a 430 KIT EXTREME. I have finished all your patience. EXTREME answers on the forum but did not answer my letters.

EXTREME - tell me where my package? the last time you wrote that on June 17 he will arrive. Now what you write. I am waiting for 4 months after being paid. You promised to send within 2 weeks
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Drew355 on July 02, 2010, 03:24:48 PM
It has to make you wonder, if the manufacturer cant finish a kit what chance does anyone else have !

It is alright saying the kits are available and people are buying, but clearly no-one is finishing them and they have been available for around a year now.
Also, showing a picture of a real 430 on the website is very misleading for people who don't know the history behind this car, bad practice really.

People assume no pics means there arent any & assume just because customers dont post their cars on here that they dont exist.
 
This forum represents a very small percentage of extreme sales, but a very large percentage of timewasters.
 
Just what do people think extreme are trying to hide?? If it was a brand new kit or something, untried, or unseen then I could understand people wondering how it will look or if it will go together.
 
BUT
 
Imagine a ford focus, you take the front bumper and front wings off it and bolt on a focus RS bumper & wings.
 
Hmmm funny...IT FITS!!!! ....thats because the bits surrounding it are the same.
Now lets try something really radical....take an extreme 360 kit which we all know goes together & we have all drooled at & seen examples of it finished. Now take the front bumper off. Guess what, if you bolt up an extreme 430 bumper ...IT FITS!!!!
 
So can you see where im going with this????
 
Repeat as necessary on the bootlid ...oh it fits!!!, side sills, wings, rear bumper etc ....they fit!!! Surprise that eh? hopefully you get the idea.
 
Now, they have made mods to the frame underneath & areas like the battery location and mounting and other areas, but guess what the doors are the same, the roof is the same, the bonnet is the same. They all fit in exactly the same place on the 406. The kit is externally as accurate to the F430 as the 360 was to the F360!
 
So it totally baffles me when people say they want to see a demonstrator!!!!!! I have the original panels in my garage to show the parts were moulded from genuine, why oh why cant people use a teeeny tiny bit of common sense & think, Oh maybe it will look just as accurate as the 360 & will involve the same build techniques and requirements as a 360, BUT WITH THE 430 SCOOPS AND INTAKES!!!!
 
Im going to get down off my soap box now & normal service will resume.......

In fact if you take a look at the attached you will see its no con, they arent trying to hide anything, this is the 430 demonstrator as it stands RIGHT NOW!

They are waiting for the wheels to arrive, for the spacers to be made and the rear lights to be delivered. Other than that it is done. It looks damned amazing & the finish is spot on. The screen, grilles and interior will be fitted in the next few days or so, so its as far as extreme can take it without the bits they are waiting for.

Ash is seriously busy at the moment & cant keep up with demand for this and the murci kits, they have several part builds in inc doing jobs like just the doors for a murci customer. The demo takes time away from the customers, but is now sat there ready for any future customers to see.

There are some other changes which I will detail later such as the suspension and brake kits etc, but they will have to be later tonight as im on a library comp to upload these pics for you.

Enjoy
(http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk373/drew3555/4303.jpg)

(http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk373/drew3555/4302.jpg)

(http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk373/drew3555/4301.jpg)
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: KunfuMunky on July 02, 2010, 05:04:03 PM
Yeaaaaaah your making my day, thank you soooo much, now I know why I'm saving money for this.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Drew355 on July 02, 2010, 10:27:15 PM
Now for the suspension.

No photos, but the front lower arm is now modded just like the lower arm on the murci is. This moves it back and out so you dont need as large a spacer on the front.

The upper coil suspension top now has a adjustable mount so that the castor angle can be increased as required. This helps reduce tramlining & improves the steering feel. The steering rods are also extended to allow for the hub moving out.

This all means that the front no longer requires the fake discs. The brembo calipes are more than up to the job and are spaced out to allow a larger ferrari size aftermarket cross drilled vented disc to be fitted. No more fake discs, just real ones!

The rears will still have to be fake, but they are working on an even more realistic version of their current disc.

The internal frame is improved, uses different mounting points at the rear. The bootlid vents are improved shape, battery fitment is improved and many other improvements to make it easier to build. They have also created a kit for the builder to modify the driveshafts. This comprises a set of sleeves and inserts which allow you to dry assemble the shafts so they are the correct length then weld them up yourself rather than having to pay for new ones , or someone to modify them for you.

Essentially its just like building  a 360, but now made just a little easier & looking a whole lot more modern!
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Drew355 on July 07, 2010, 03:35:36 PM
Hows this then!!!

(http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk373/drew3555/Interior.jpg)

The curve of the parts fit the pug dash really well & the width of the side vents is just slightly less than the vents on the pug, which means they will only need minor mods to fit. The curve and outline of the lower heater control panel is only a mm or so off following the opening in the pug dash & looks perfect!! These are the first pull prototype set from my originals and are currently being cleaned up, modded & trial fitted on the demonstrator so the interior kit is on its way soon.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: GTOpower on July 07, 2010, 05:07:20 PM
Hows this then!!!

(http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk373/drew3555/Interior.jpg)

The curve of the parts fit the pug dash really well & the width of the side vents is just slightly less than the vents on the pug, which means they will only need minor mods to fit. The curve and outline of the lower heater control panel is only a mm or so off following the opening in the pug dash & looks perfect!! These are the first pull prototype set from my originals and are currently being cleaned up, modded & trial fitted on the demonstrator so the interior kit is on its way soon.

Good stuff, pity there isnt anything similar for the 360 dash. I have the top part if Extreme wants to take moulds.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Drew355 on July 07, 2010, 05:19:30 PM
the 430 dash parts shown are seperate on the real car, so it makes it easier to add them to the pug dash without major work. The 360 parts are more integrated, so I would think adding them is a little more involved.
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: janman92 on July 08, 2010, 01:46:07 PM
so far these parts are just copies of the plasic( or maybe carbon ) ferrari parts
im courious how they will finish them off.......
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Drew355 on July 09, 2010, 10:12:26 AM
These parts bolt to the ferrari dash in recesses normally. I belive the intention is to tweak these parts to fit into the recesses provided on the pug dash. That way you can remove the pug vents and centre console bit & replace it with these. I dont know if it can be done without having to re-cover the dash, but I believe that is the intention. Hence why it is good that the edges of the ferrari parts are only a few mm off the edge profile of the pug parts.

I think the difficult bit will be the top fo the 3 vent part, this is likely to get it the way of the dash curve from the instrument panel, so unsure yet how that will work.

We will see how they do it, but the dash parts are on their way.

Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: Argus X575 on July 14, 2010, 10:36:50 AM
Man i leave for a few months and I miss everything as soon as it is unveiled.  i am so happy that this work has come to light.  Great work Extreme!  Hey does anyone hear that??????  EXACTLY-darn quiet!  Anyone has a program I want to hear what movement we are listening to of this Cricket Orchestra.  I mean parts, demo pics, upgrades, and the nay-sayers run quiet.  Oh well I will enjoy the peace while I am on here for now as next week I am sure they will be chipping at the dash bits are 1 millionth of a mm off from the original when looking at it upside down from a 11.7 degree angle when the sun is high in the sky and the temperature is around 26 degrees celsius. 

Again great work Extreme that is just more that I have to add to the list. Do you take children for trade (and yes they are house-broken)???????
Title: Re: The one the only the 430!!!!!!
Post by: aak1203 on July 14, 2010, 02:16:04 PM
a little sarcastic there argus........i like it!