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Read April 10, 2019, 11:49:34 PM #600
APDevelopments

Re: Cerberus here we go.

Hi Guys.
It’s been a while since I’ve updated so it’s about time you had a update.
Those who have been following know that late last year the lambo was taken to Rogue motorsport to have a 3.5 litre V6 conversion.
Well to cut a story short it’s still there.
Rogue have really had there work cut out shoehorning this beast of a engine into the lambo.
The car had thrown up every obstacle possible.
It has been a mammoth task getting it all to fit but we are now nearly there.
There has been so many extra parts ordered from America so delivery times have delayed completion.
This conversion has caused so many problems there is no way I could have done it myself.
Only the knowledge and skill of rogue have made this possible.
The project has also cost a lot more than I had imagined costing well over £10k. So it’s goina hurt that final bill.
But if it goes anything like a lotus evora then it’s worth every penny.
The old engine turned out to be totally nackered. With a list of faults as long as your arm. It was past it.
So some sort of engine replacement was on the cards for a while.
When I visited rogue a few weeks ago I took some photos for you all.
The old engine out and in the floor and the new beast all fitted and almost ready to run.
Time frame wise we are heading for a completion time for just after Easter. So hopefully I will be able to have her ready for the summer.


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Read April 11, 2019, 12:16:34 PM #601
Mickey_London

Re: Cerberus here we go.

She is going to fly with that engine  Wink
Mick
 
Read May 17, 2019, 02:19:44 PM #602
4u2nv

Re: Cerberus here we go.

nice 1 , so is it still turbo? like the MR2 lump was ?

cant wait to hear it in a vid Smiley
 
Read June 04, 2019, 09:47:36 PM #603
mikemurci

Re: Cerberus here we go.

Can I ask you how you got on at test station IVA etc? I have a way to go yet but curious mate
 
Read July 10, 2019, 06:36:59 PM #604
APDevelopments

Re: Cerberus here we go.

Hi guys.
It’s been a while since my last post.
As you know my Lamborghini has been away at rogue Motorsport having a 3.5 litre V6 shoehorned into it.
They have had the car since December.
Well today has been a amazing day as I have finally brought her home.
Since today I have only seen in progress half way through so I haven’t heard or driven her.
I arrived at rogue around midday and had arranged for the car transport company to meet me there around lunchtime.
There she was sitting there in all her glory waiting for me to collect her.
It’s been so long I’ve forgotten how beautiful she is in her bright orange.
Well the engine is in there and it’s a lot more full in the back than it used to be with a lot of pipes.
When you look under the back the new exhaust system is a absolute piece of art.
You can see the amount of workman ship to get her to where she is is incredible.
The car has basically been totally rebuilt. Every pipe has been replaced. A new radiator, everything is brand new.
Of course it’s now time to actually start her up.
Ohhhhhhh! Myyyyyyyyy! Godddddddd! Putting it politely.
From the fart from the old 2 litre to the roar of a formula 1 car.
It sounds absolutely insane.
Apparently when you start from cold the engine runs at 2000 rpm till it starts to warm up.
It then slowly drops down to 900 rpm once warm.
Whilst it’s warming up it sounds possessed by something not from this earth.
Then it slows down to a more relaxed tick over.
Just Give it a rev and it’s still possessed.
It sounds like a real Lamborghini. I’m not kidding.
It’s half the engine of the v12 being a V6 but you really can’t tell. I’ve heard real murcielagos and this is pretty much spot on.
I haven’t had the pleasure of driving her yet as it came off the transporter at 4pm today.
I’ve got some work to do before I do take her for a spin.
I’ve got to fit the rear grills,  bat wings, boot lid and engine cover back and give her a really good check over.
I will post more over the weekend to report on what she’s like to drive.
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Read July 12, 2019, 01:07:32 PM #605
zxrjohn14

Re: Cerberus here we go.

Beautiful!  Smiley
 
Read July 12, 2019, 11:31:08 PM #606
APDevelopments

Re: Cerberus here we go.

Time for a update.
Well today has been a complete success.
Today the Lambo passed its mot with flying colours and no advisories.
I use a Ferrari specialist garage for the mot as there extremely strict and are used to expensive cars.
Looks like Rogue Motorsport have done a fantastic job with the conversion as everything is tip top.
Not to mention I have finally driven her for the first time since the conversion.
So what’s she like?
Where do I start?
So when you come to turn the key from cold.
It’s got a super car starting sound.
When you turn the key you that long whine from the starter motor before it fires up. Real lambo style.
Then it suddenly fires to life.
When starting from Cold the engine will idle at 2000 rpm until it becomes warm.
Now this part is extremely loud. It sounds like a formula 1 car. It’s a extremely loud purr. Absolutely insane.
Once the engine starts to warm up the revs slowly drop down to 900 rpm.
Whilst ticking over it’s very civilised. Just a quiet purr. So quiet you can hold a conversation at the back of the car without having to shout.
If you give it alittle rev it sounds like something very special indeed. A real supercar sound.
So what’s it like to drive?
The clutch is extremely fierce. Being brand new and a racing clutch to cope with the powerful engine. it’s difficult to get a smooth take off.
The engine is so smooth and pulls beautifully.
It revs so freely and sounds like a beautiful orchestra playing sweet melody behind you.
Then you get a chance to open her up and that orchestra turns into the sound of the devil opening up.
By god it’s loud and sounds totally mental.
What car is similar to this sound? The only way to describe the sound is YouTube a modified Nissan GTR. It’s very similar.
When your slowing down using the engine it burbles, pops and bangs away even getting the odd loud pop.
It’s absolutely fantastic.
But where it really scores is it’s free rev sound. It’s not like the fart from a 4 cylinder it’s a pure roar.
You get kids walking past shouting give it a rev mate. When you give it a rev it does not disappoint. It simply sounds insane.
To get this amazing sound rogue have surely done there homework.
It’s pretty much straight piped with no CATS but only a small 4” silencer to take the edge off. It doesn’t do much when it comes to quietening this monster.
I’m glad now that mine is a 1990 chassis because if it was a 1992 onwards it would require a naff catalyst on the exhaust.
So it it fast?
Errr yes putting it mildly.
With around 300 bhp of pure naturally aspirated grunt. It’s definitely a 0-60 car in around 5 -6 seconds.
But don’t forget that the cars very heavy. I would guess just over 1.5 tonnes with all that steel and fibreglass.
But I don’t want to rag it and drive her like a bell end. These days I tend to drive like a old fart and you will only end up getting nicked anyway.
There’s no point to prove. It now sounds like a Lamborghini and it moves like one as well.
Photos below are of the car having its mot and the amazing pipework made by rogue.
There’s lots of small jobs to do now over the summer.
Now I have a obd port I can plug a Bluetooth reader in to operate a app on the stereo screen for more gauges.
A new stereo is in order with a subwoofer.
The engine does look abit plain so maybe a new v12 engine cover is in order.
I will keep you all updated as before.





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Read July 20, 2019, 05:57:35 AM #607
xav_crack

Re: Cerberus here we go.

Time for a update.
Well today has been a complete success.
Today the Lambo passed its mot with flying colours and no advisories.
I use a Ferrari specialist garage for the mot as there extremely strict and are used to expensive cars.
Looks like Rogue Motorsport have done a fantastic job with the conversion as everything is tip top.
Not to mention I have finally driven her for the first time since the conversion.
So what’s she like?
Where do I start?
So when you come to turn the key from cold.
It’s got a super car starting sound.
When you turn the key you that long whine from the starter motor before it fires up. Real lambo style.
Then it suddenly fires to life.
When starting from Cold the engine will idle at 2000 rpm until it becomes warm.
Now this part is extremely loud. It sounds like a formula 1 car. It’s a extremely loud purr. Absolutely insane.
Once the engine starts to warm up the revs slowly drop down to 900 rpm.
Whilst ticking over it’s very civilised. Just a quiet purr. So quiet you can hold a conversation at the back of the car without having to shout.
If you give it alittle rev it sounds like something very special indeed. A real supercar sound.
So what’s it like to drive?
The clutch is extremely fierce. Being brand new and a racing clutch to cope with the powerful engine. it’s difficult to get a smooth take off.
The engine is so smooth and pulls beautifully.
It revs so freely and sounds like a beautiful orchestra playing sweet melody behind you.
Then you get a chance to open her up and that orchestra turns into the sound of the devil opening up.
By god it’s loud and sounds totally mental.
What car is similar to this sound? The only way to describe the sound is YouTube a modified Nissan GTR. It’s very similar.
When your slowing down using the engine it burbles, pops and bangs away even getting the odd loud pop.
It’s absolutely fantastic.
But where it really scores is it’s free rev sound. It’s not like the fart from a 4 cylinder it’s a pure roar.
You get kids walking past shouting give it a rev mate. When you give it a rev it does not disappoint. It simply sounds insane.
To get this amazing sound rogue have surely done there homework.
It’s pretty much straight piped with no CATS but only a small 4” silencer to take the edge off. It doesn’t do much when it comes to quietening this monster.
I’m glad now that mine is a 1990 chassis because if it was a 1992 onwards it would require a naff catalyst on the exhaust.
So it it fast?
Errr yes putting it mildly.
With around 300 bhp of pure naturally aspirated grunt. It’s definitely a 0-60 car in around 5 -6 seconds.
But don’t forget that the cars very heavy. I would guess just over 1.5 tonnes with all that steel and fibreglass.
But I don’t want to rag it and drive her like a bell end. These days I tend to drive like a old fart and you will only end up getting nicked anyway.
There’s no point to prove. It now sounds like a Lamborghini and it moves like one as well.
Photos below are of the car having its mot and the amazing pipework made by rogue.
There’s lots of small jobs to do now over the summer.
Now I have a obd port I can plug a Bluetooth reader in to operate a app on the stereo screen for more gauges.
A new stereo is in order with a subwoofer.
The engine does look abit plain so maybe a new v12 engine cover is in order.
I will keep you all updated as before.





Wow, it looks incredible! Do you know if this guys are still running the business? Or what happened to them? Original web site is down for a decade now...
 
Read August 04, 2019, 08:54:18 PM #608
APDevelopments

Re: Cerberus here we go.

Time for a update but firstly the Answer to the question.
As far as I’m aware extreme went bust years ago so no they are no longer in business.
Anyway.
Now that the lambo has been brought up to date with a new modern engine it’s time to bring the toys up to date as well.
Firstly the engine conversion is a complete success and has completely transferred the car from a fake Lamborghini into a almost real Lamborghini.
It sounds absolutely fantastic and by god it’s loud. If you give it a free rev it now sounds exactly like the real one. It’s actually hard to tell the difference.
It’s also pretty fast with around 300 bhp of normally aspirated grunt available.
One of the best things is that the new engine has a modern ecu with a OBD port.
This means I can fit a WiFi obd reader and have a flash car stereo which can have all the dials and gauges.
The speakers I originally fitted are JBL so there perfect for the upgrade and don’t need changing.
One thing I’m missing is a sub woofer.
Now theres not a lot of room in the cabin so space is limited.
Being a mr2 turbo floorpan there’s a small storage compartment behind the seats. I use the small compartment behind the drivers seat for a few emergency tools but I’ve never used the passenger side.
The mr2 turbo used to have a factory fitted subwoofer fitted behind the passenger seat and fits in the small storage compartment.
So this is my best option. 
Good old eBay and it’s not long before I find a sub to fit.
Because I’m no longer using the old Toyota amp it’s just the small sub box I require.
I strip the sub box and replace with a 4” jbl twin voice coil speaker. For the amp I’m using a small alpine remote sub amp.
To get the sub to fit behind the seat I have to make a few modifications to the compartment so I strip it back to the original mr2 fittings.
One I have the holes and area clear I refit the carpet and fit the subwoofer into its location.
All it requires is a small carpet cover and it’s good to go.
Why does it always take so long to fit a new car stereo?
The new head unit I have chosen is a xtrons large media screen system.
It takes a while to get everything wired up and fitted correctly.
As it turns out the size of the screen is absolutely perfect for the mr2 dash.
Now it’s all fitted and working it sounds great but I have the extra dials and gauges available.
Now lots of time to play with it.

This week it was my car clubs annual meet and cruise. We all met up at the pub and then when for a cruise around.
We had a amazing turn out with lot of hot rods, American classics and of course my Lamborghini.
We had lots of fun in the tunnels having exhaust noise battles.
The lambo definitely won the Italian supercar sound.
I have a few events to attend over the summer holidays so more then.







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Read August 04, 2019, 08:56:51 PM #609
APDevelopments

Re: Cerberus here we go.

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Read September 12, 2019, 07:50:01 PM #610
APDevelopments

Re: Cerberus here we go.

Time for a update.
Firstly I’m sure you all saw my lambo appear again on fleebay.
I had a horrible worry that fitting the bigger 3.5 V6 engine had actually devalued the car. So the only way to find out is to stick it up on fleebay to get a good valuation again.
Well the final result wasn’t a disappointment and it hasn’t lost any value by having the engine conversion done.
To be honest it has attracted more people who would be interested in purchasing the car.
Last year it went up to £28k. This year it went up to £30k and that’s at the end of the summer.
You also have to consider all this brexit shit taking place and people are not spending money as much this year.

Last night was the Royal County Car Clubs evening meet at the Shire horse pub in Maidenhead.
As it was a sunny evening I had to take the lambo along.
It was nice to see everybody there again.
This summer hasn’t been brilliant for these monthly meets this year. Every one it has rained and rained so it’s been a no show for me.
The lambos looking good as always. Sorry for the poor photos. iPhones don’t work well when it’s getting dark.

I have lots of jobs for her over this winter as things have cropped up that need to be done since the new engine.

Firstly it’s going to go back to Rogue Motorsport to have a better exhaust fitted.
Unfortunately with its current setup the cars just to loud around the neighbourhood.
I’ve really pissed off my neighbors this summer and they have actually made my live quite miserable.
Every time I start it up to go out the curtains start to twitch. Moan moan moan.
So I’m going to get rogue to build me a switchable exhaust.
Flick a switch on the dash and the car will run as quietly as possible. then flick the switch and it will bypass all the silencers and come straight out. Ive got to keep it lambo lol.

Secondly I desperately need to fit air conditioning. This summer even tho it rained through most of it. When I did get the opportunity to take her out I cooked!
It’s just so hot in there. And when you get stuck in traffic you just simply die. The heater blowing air doesn’t help as it’s always blowing hot air. 
So it’s time to get real air conditioning going.
It’s time to start buying up old mr2 air con parts and get them fitted.

So more then.


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Read September 12, 2019, 10:34:33 PM #611
AIG1355

Re: Cerberus here we go.

Some great pics. I 'm needing to upgrade my exhaust too. Opposite to yours tho. Mine is too quiet, but the company I intend to use offer the same solution as you describe.

I"m bringing her home on 12th Oct. Hope the sun is shining!
I'll be driving back from Maidenhead to Huddersfield.

Cheers
Rich
 
Read September 13, 2019, 09:57:54 PM #612
360brian

Re: Cerberus here we go.

I strongly recommend vacuum acuated bypass valves, with a solenoid open/close switch added to the vacuum line (to close the suck). Electric motors dont last long with bypass butterfly valves. I got thru a few with my old 3L engine conversion.

End result was this, happy days:
 
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